Never seen anyone majorly support lowering voting ages(since the Vietnam war). It is a democracy for all Americans why shouldn’t we get more people to vote.
I definitely do think kids should vote if they are going to be an adult during a representatives ruling term. Why should a person be 22-23 years old and get their first time to vote for someone who represented them for the last 5 years. That seems stupid also it will allow kids to slowly get into politics.
Why shouldn’t kids vote? We let them work and thus pay taxes. No taxation without representation.
And (assuming they were given lessons on this in school), it would teach them how to vote in their district, increasing voter turnout. It would help them learn how to be politically active.
Its not happening, but when a bill went before congress more than half of democrats voted to lower voting age from 18 to 16. I am not saying I am for or against young people voting, but since the democrat side is the one that wants lower age, and pushes for people that are more ignorant to vote, how can people possibly think that the democrats are the party of being better informed?
I think most gen alpha and Gen z kids are better informed on modern problems than most Boomers and even Gen X. Remember “the internet is a series of tubes” guy? Most of our politicians are very out of touch with technology. Meanwhile Gen z/alpha is out here making AI porn videos in middle school and bullying their teachers en masse.
tubes: heh, as hilarious as he was, he wasn’t entirely wrong. It basically is.
tech: it’s coming full circle, with studies showing the latest generation are increasingly tech illiterate. Like how people stopped knowing how to change their own tires on their cars; people use tech, but have no idea about how the magic box works or do anything if it glitches. Also, bad typing is becoming a thing again.
(Vaguely related, I read a review on a budget phone yesterday that gave it 1 star because typing SMSes was too slow and difficult. It used the old Nokia numberpad, and they’d never dealt with one before.)
Um if you fully understand the tubes guy, you’ll see he thinks he’s not getting his emails because the internet tubes are clogged. He wasn’t right. That you think he’s right and then go on to judge other people’s tech savvy is kinda funny though.
Car tires aren’t changing the world like AI is. Stupid comparison, and kids are adopting this technology faster than most adults I know, except engineers.
How good are/were your grandparents at texting? How good do you think congress as a whole would be with sending a text? How fast and comfortable would they be with it? And compare that with pretty much any middle schooler.
You don’t have to learn old tech to know modern tech. Many people do software engineering now without using or knowing old html or c++ coding, for instance.
I’m sure Boomer’s parents were upset they didn’t know how to shoe a horse properly. That’s the nature of technology though. Get with the times.
tubes: sure, that part was wrong. But “the internet being a series of tubes” is basically right, and things like DDOS attacks can ‘clog the tubes’. He understood the internet better than most people!
As for the rest, I think you’ve completely misunderstood what I wrote. I purposefully didn’t include an analogy like “rebuild an engine”, but rather specifically chose to refer to the most basic, simple tasks outside of “turn on and go”.
Like using a keyboard for typing. The kind laptops have, for example.
Bruh who fucking cares about changing a tire or using a keyboard when they have work arounds for that? Knowing how AI works is VITAL moving forward. AI is truly going to change the world like cellphones and the internet did. It allows almost everyone to be a tiny capitalist, who can now afford a secretary, a marketer, and other virtual staff through AI. Not to mention concerns with the internet such as data mining, specialized advertising, and cloud security, which I would STILL trust a random 16 year old’s opinion about over most of congress.
A younger person can learn to do simple things like type on a keyboard. I don’t think most of our congresspeople can learn about AI.
you’re the person who compared people who understand how it works vs people who use it, and now you’re removed I allowed your faulty parallel to continue? 🤦♂️
you’re being a combination of disingenious and stupid, so I’m out. 👍
(But to clarify: none of your 16 yos know how AI works, and I seriously doubt you do too)
Lol, one if my exes was a lead researcher for machine learning at Berkeley and MIT. I’m not am expert but I have very good understanding from my conversations with him. Ironically, I use similar methods as a Dominatrix to train my subs, as he did to train his AI. Wouldn’t think there would be so much in common but yeah.
Middle schoolers indeed are using AI, let alone 16 year olds.
Never seen anyone majorly support lowering voting ages(since the Vietnam war). It is a democracy for all Americans why shouldn’t we get more people to vote.
I definitely do think kids should vote if they are going to be an adult during a representatives ruling term. Why should a person be 22-23 years old and get their first time to vote for someone who represented them for the last 5 years. That seems stupid also it will allow kids to slowly get into politics.
I advocate for lowering the voting age.
Why shouldn’t kids vote? We let them work and thus pay taxes. No taxation without representation.
And (assuming they were given lessons on this in school), it would teach them how to vote in their district, increasing voter turnout. It would help them learn how to be politically active.
Its not happening, but when a bill went before congress more than half of democrats voted to lower voting age from 18 to 16. I am not saying I am for or against young people voting, but since the democrat side is the one that wants lower age, and pushes for people that are more ignorant to vote, how can people possibly think that the democrats are the party of being better informed?
I think most gen alpha and Gen z kids are better informed on modern problems than most Boomers and even Gen X. Remember “the internet is a series of tubes” guy? Most of our politicians are very out of touch with technology. Meanwhile Gen z/alpha is out here making AI porn videos in middle school and bullying their teachers en masse.
tubes: heh, as hilarious as he was, he wasn’t entirely wrong. It basically is.
tech: it’s coming full circle, with studies showing the latest generation are increasingly tech illiterate. Like how people stopped knowing how to change their own tires on their cars; people use tech, but have no idea about how the magic box works or do anything if it glitches. Also, bad typing is becoming a thing again.
(Vaguely related, I read a review on a budget phone yesterday that gave it 1 star because typing SMSes was too slow and difficult. It used the old Nokia numberpad, and they’d never dealt with one before.)
Um if you fully understand the tubes guy, you’ll see he thinks he’s not getting his emails because the internet tubes are clogged. He wasn’t right. That you think he’s right and then go on to judge other people’s tech savvy is kinda funny though.
Car tires aren’t changing the world like AI is. Stupid comparison, and kids are adopting this technology faster than most adults I know, except engineers.
How good are/were your grandparents at texting? How good do you think congress as a whole would be with sending a text? How fast and comfortable would they be with it? And compare that with pretty much any middle schooler.
You don’t have to learn old tech to know modern tech. Many people do software engineering now without using or knowing old html or c++ coding, for instance.
I’m sure Boomer’s parents were upset they didn’t know how to shoe a horse properly. That’s the nature of technology though. Get with the times.
tubes: sure, that part was wrong. But “the internet being a series of tubes” is basically right, and things like DDOS attacks can ‘clog the tubes’. He understood the internet better than most people!
As for the rest, I think you’ve completely misunderstood what I wrote. I purposefully didn’t include an analogy like “rebuild an engine”, but rather specifically chose to refer to the most basic, simple tasks outside of “turn on and go”.
Like using a keyboard for typing. The kind laptops have, for example.
Bruh who fucking cares about changing a tire or using a keyboard when they have work arounds for that? Knowing how AI works is VITAL moving forward. AI is truly going to change the world like cellphones and the internet did. It allows almost everyone to be a tiny capitalist, who can now afford a secretary, a marketer, and other virtual staff through AI. Not to mention concerns with the internet such as data mining, specialized advertising, and cloud security, which I would STILL trust a random 16 year old’s opinion about over most of congress.
A younger person can learn to do simple things like type on a keyboard. I don’t think most of our congresspeople can learn about AI.
you’re the person who compared people who understand how it works vs people who use it, and now you’re removed I allowed your faulty parallel to continue? 🤦♂️
you’re being a combination of disingenious and stupid, so I’m out. 👍
(But to clarify: none of your 16 yos know how AI works, and I seriously doubt you do too)
Lol, one if my exes was a lead researcher for machine learning at Berkeley and MIT. I’m not am expert but I have very good understanding from my conversations with him. Ironically, I use similar methods as a Dominatrix to train my subs, as he did to train his AI. Wouldn’t think there would be so much in common but yeah.
Middle schoolers indeed are using AI, let alone 16 year olds.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-03/scandal-over-ai-generated-nudes-at-beverly-hills-middle-school-highlights-gaps-in-law