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17th house Democrat calls for Biden to step down. Post NATO-news conference, 6:30 Pacific Time

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    5 months ago

    Bro I hate to break it to you, but nothing about Biden changed from that debate.

    He lost the confidence of his own party. I believe I mentioned that. Quite prominently. Several times.

    He’s had the slighted, margin of error dip in polling.

    I didn’t say “The polls changed, so I changed my mind.” Perhaps you should reread what I wrote.

    The reality is that he’s been losing this whole time and you’ve been in complete denial of that.

    He was in a bad position, that’s not the same as not being our best chance at victory. I believed he was previously despite his poor polling.

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldOP
      12·
      5 months ago

      He was in a bad position, that’s not the same as not being our best chance at victory. I believed he was previously despite his poor polling.

      And you were really, really, really fucking wrong. Wrong in such a way that the net effect has been that you worked to prevent a real conversation about what was happening.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        And you were really, really, really fucking wrong. Wrong in such a way that the net effect has been that you worked to prevent a real conversation about what was happening.

        Yes. I was really fucking wrong.

        I made a call with imperfect information, and I made the wrong one. Fuck, I’m still making a call with imperfect information. I might be wrong now for all I fucking know. All I can do is go forward with all my energy with what I believe to be the correct course of action.

        You want me to say that my judgement was subpar in regarding which sources to trust and how to weigh them? That’s fair, I won’t argue against that, clearly I fucked up. But “You were vocal in the need for unity behind one candidate in a FPTP system, and the one with no real challengers in his party’s primary is our only choice” is not one I will apologize for.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            5 months ago

            I wouldn’t call it Blue MAGA, and I find the term stupid. They’re operating on inertia, like I was - it’s not a cult-like worship of Biden. It’s just the belief that he was the best shot.

            But yes. I intend on arguing forcefully towards pro-Biden commenters on the need to change candidates now that Biden has lost the unity that an incumbent is supposed to give, especially one who ran in his primary without any major challengers. We’ve fucked up and now we have to unfuck this mess, fast.

            • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldOP
              22·
              5 months ago

              Thank you. Its only by pointing out their denialism around material reality one by one, and fuck its been exhausting work.