Fact Check

Based on currently available numbers, there are about 31 vacant housing units for every homeless person in the U.S.

    • CableMonster
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      5 months ago

      No, but how is a market economy worse than what people did in the past?

        • CableMonster
          11·
          5 months ago

          Do you really want government provided housing? The ones I am aware of are places like the projects and were the worst place to live (unless you were a drug dealer).

          • jorp@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 months ago

            When imagining that the government do more can you not imagine that it do better?

            Yes Americans have a shit government, they also don’t have a socialist government.

            You’re pointing to the corrupt right wing hellscape you currently live in to deny that another way would be better.

            • CableMonster
              12·
              5 months ago

              What is one definitive thing the government does better? I want a 100% solid thing, and not just a thing that they have a monopoly on.

              • jorp@lemmy.world
                1·
                5 months ago

                I’m not sure what you mean by “the government” but why not look at the medical system in the US compared to any other similarly developed nation?

                Is your thesis that profit motive and competition the only way that any good or service should be produced?

                Would you prefer to pay a toll on every privately owned road you take? How should mercenaries be paid in order to guarantee they won’t mind living in a nuclear sub for months? If the weather service can’t raise enough capital by selling stock how should we collect weather data?

                • CableMonster
                  11·
                  5 months ago

                  The medical field is one of the most regulated things in america.

                  My thesis is that the government structurally cant do things efficiently.

                  I dont want zero government, but I want smaller government. RIght now the US has the biggest government(s) in the history of the world, why not make it a bunch smaller? The government is the direct cause of why things are so expensive, would you like to have cheaper housing and in exchange less government involvement in your life?

                  • jorp@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    5 months ago

                    As someone who considers my ideal society to be one that’s left-anarchist I can sympathize with that point. However that’s not something that can be done overnight and requires building parallel power structures and communities.

                    However, given the realities of today. A State that serves people interests rather than profit interests is the next best thing.

                    Every statement you’re making and your entire way of looking at this problem are rooted in existing capitalist frameworks. I’m not going to convince you that there are better ways, but putting aside my online persona for a minute I encourage you to learn about what other ways MIGHT be.

                    You are only thinking of the state as its current neoliberal incarnation. Your critiques of the state are local in time and geography to today and where you live.

                    Humans have come up with wildly different ways, and there are many more that might only be enabled now in what’s effectively a post scarcity economy with respect to our basic needs. We are overproducing and wasting every single thing a human needs: shelter, clothing, food. Yet people still don’t have those things. Is this an efficient economy?

                    You don’t owe me anything, but maybe you’ll find it interesting to think about these things and learn about wildly different ways that things could be working so that you can broaden your imagination. A skim of the topics in here might inspire https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works