Punching fascists does not make you a fascist. This is a dumb rhetoric - Tolerance of intolerance was always a trick used by fascists and other evil people to allow this crap to flourish
Now, saying people are fascists for wanting to punch a fascist in the face… THAT is something that makes me wonder
Weird… I didn’t know that everyone to ever attend Hillsdale was a Jan. 6 insurrectionist. So what do you suggest? Do you want to get the registration of every student and punch them in the face to show them how anti-fascist you are?
No they don’t. I call out fascism as I see it and there are groups of anarcho-democrats that are fascists. If you don’t want to appear as a fascist, then run for office & get people to vote for you. You can’t go around punching people in the face if they don’t vote for you and claim you are anti-fascist.
Not voting has a higher probably of affecting leftist votes, and will likely empower the conservative vote, thereby voting in Fuckface 45 who is a fascist, thru and thru, 100%.
A majority of left-leaning people would vote and beat Trump, its just they don’t like genocidal Joe. If you want to beat the fascism you claim is inevitable you pick a strong candidate… you don’t become a fascist yourself.
Not with First Past the Post voting in place. You want change? You get the alternative vote in BEFORE the general election, and ideally before primaries.
Doing a protest vote now is literally throwing in the towel and letting Fuckface 45 win.
You do realize at this point a majority of Americans are voting for Trump over Biden. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can plan a different candidate before the convention that will beat Trump.
Well, you believe what you want. You can tell the cops all about it when you start punching people that you believe to be the fascist… or you can advocate that Democrats pick a winning candidate to beat Trump. Even if Trump wins, you can participate and run in your local and state governments to help protect the rule of law without punching people to try to force their votes.
You’re responding to an article about American politics. Germany also prohibits free speech about genocide in Israel, so you’ve got that going for you. What are you doing to defend your democracy except criminalizing free speech. Sounds to me like Germany is still full of Nazis.
I am entirely aware, just saying that a country, that went through what you are hopefully not going to experience, has measures for what you’re so actively trying to villainise.
We’ve measures to limit free speech, but we do not like many democracies in the world have a concept of free speech. We have a right to a free opinion. You are allowed to think and believe what you want. But your are not allowed to say things that can or will limit the constitutional rights of others or that of the fundamental constitutional principles.
Therefor you’re not allowed to insult someone, as that is an assault on their dignity.
The legitimacy and sovereignty of Isreal and of the jewish people is founding principle of the constitution hence its defense through the criminal code. But to make matters clear, I have yet to hear of any courtly proceedings regarding the opinions on the Gaza-matter.
As for the unjustified shutdown of protests in relation to that, courts have already overruled those and there have been quite a few protests on the way Israel is fighting in Palestine.
Do grant us a bit more leeway though as it is a bit more complicated to criticise Israel for German politicians
Biden is not a winning candidate. The polls show this. Democrats know this. They are planning an exist strategy for Biden. You can read about it on pretty much any news website. The only people saying Biden is somehow going to win are in denial.
Cops can be fascist. A lot of them are. However, there are still laws in the United States that have been around for a long time. Breaking those laws to punch people that you think are fascist, which to you appears to include anyone not voting for Biden, is illegal, fascist and the mindset of a domestic terrorist organization.
You’re the one acting like a child. Violence is rarely necessary. You are starting to sound like a Jan. 6 insurrectionist.
Again, it sounds like you are quoting the mission statement of a domestic terrorist organization.
Yep, it’s like you know this thing where they do many surveys to find out who people are voting for in advance of the elections. As technology develops, so has the ability to more accurately predict and understand the election outcome in advance. I’m not sure if you’ve ever heard about them before, or know what the word means, but if you need some help understanding polling and the margin of error altogether then I’m happy to share. Most polls are focused on swing states where the election will be decided. Biden is particularly not doing well in those states:
If you actually read those article you’d see that polling overestimated support for Biden and Democrats. So if polling already has Biden trailing and polls overestimate support, that isn’t helping your case.
So he’s considering becoming a fascist?
Punching fascists does not make you a fascist. This is a dumb rhetoric - Tolerance of intolerance was always a trick used by fascists and other evil people to allow this crap to flourish
Now, saying people are fascists for wanting to punch a fascist in the face… THAT is something that makes me wonder
Not voting doesn’t make you a fascist… prove me wrong.
Being a cherry doesn’t make you meat
See? I can completely miss the point and do a non sequitur too
Like how you glossed over the whole part of it mentioning that he is part of the far right faction
Weird… I didn’t know that everyone to ever attend Hillsdale was a Jan. 6 insurrectionist. So what do you suggest? Do you want to get the registration of every student and punch them in the face to show them how anti-fascist you are?
Iunno, you want to stop trying to talk in circles and twisting things constantly?
Honestly, this is just amusing me at this point, everybody sees through your bs
No they don’t. I call out fascism as I see it and there are groups of anarcho-democrats that are fascists. If you don’t want to appear as a fascist, then run for office & get people to vote for you. You can’t go around punching people in the face if they don’t vote for you and claim you are anti-fascist.
Lol yes we absolutely see through your bullshit.
Fuck fascist pigs. America has a rich history of violently destroying these wastes of oxygen.
You don’t seem to know what fascism is when you’re advocating for it and appear to actually want to be fascist yourself.
Ok, call it out. Go for it.
Trust me. They do. Check your ratios.
If you use ratios on Lemmy as an indicator of what is socially and legally acceptable, you’re going to have a bad time.
Not voting has a higher probably of affecting leftist votes, and will likely empower the conservative vote, thereby voting in Fuckface 45 who is a fascist, thru and thru, 100%.
So “not voting” is a vote for a fascist.
They know. That’s the point.
A majority of left-leaning people would vote and beat Trump, its just they don’t like genocidal Joe. If you want to beat the fascism you claim is inevitable you pick a strong candidate… you don’t become a fascist yourself.
Not with First Past the Post voting in place. You want change? You get the alternative vote in BEFORE the general election, and ideally before primaries.
Doing a protest vote now is literally throwing in the towel and letting Fuckface 45 win.
Period.
You do realize at this point a majority of Americans are voting for Trump over Biden. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can plan a different candidate before the convention that will beat Trump.
Paradox of Tolerance
It’s okay to punch fascists, and the dude in the photo is one.
Well, you believe what you want. You can tell the cops all about it when you start punching people that you believe to be the fascist… or you can advocate that Democrats pick a winning candidate to beat Trump. Even if Trump wins, you can participate and run in your local and state governments to help protect the rule of law without punching people to try to force their votes.
Art. 20 IV of the German constitution roughly: “the democracy is armed. Any citizen has the right to defend it if so necessary”
You’re responding to an article about American politics. Germany also prohibits free speech about genocide in Israel, so you’ve got that going for you. What are you doing to defend your democracy except criminalizing free speech. Sounds to me like Germany is still full of Nazis.
I am entirely aware, just saying that a country, that went through what you are hopefully not going to experience, has measures for what you’re so actively trying to villainise.
We’ve measures to limit free speech, but we do not like many democracies in the world have a concept of free speech. We have a right to a free opinion. You are allowed to think and believe what you want. But your are not allowed to say things that can or will limit the constitutional rights of others or that of the fundamental constitutional principles. Therefor you’re not allowed to insult someone, as that is an assault on their dignity. The legitimacy and sovereignty of Isreal and of the jewish people is founding principle of the constitution hence its defense through the criminal code. But to make matters clear, I have yet to hear of any courtly proceedings regarding the opinions on the Gaza-matter. As for the unjustified shutdown of protests in relation to that, courts have already overruled those and there have been quite a few protests on the way Israel is fighting in Palestine. Do grant us a bit more leeway though as it is a bit more complicated to criticise Israel for German politicians
There are no “winning candidates” other than Biden at the moment, full stop.
Cops are fascists, too. So I’ll be punching those when they protect their ilk.
Don’t be a bootlicking child. Understand what’s actually happening in the world around you. And know that actual violence is occasionally necessary.
Peaceful Protesting Only Works for So Long
Biden is not a winning candidate. The polls show this. Democrats know this. They are planning an exist strategy for Biden. You can read about it on pretty much any news website. The only people saying Biden is somehow going to win are in denial.
Cops can be fascist. A lot of them are. However, there are still laws in the United States that have been around for a long time. Breaking those laws to punch people that you think are fascist, which to you appears to include anyone not voting for Biden, is illegal, fascist and the mindset of a domestic terrorist organization.
You’re the one acting like a child. Violence is rarely necessary. You are starting to sound like a Jan. 6 insurrectionist.
Again, it sounds like you are quoting the mission statement of a domestic terrorist organization.
Polls. Hilarious!
Yep, it’s like you know this thing where they do many surveys to find out who people are voting for in advance of the elections. As technology develops, so has the ability to more accurately predict and understand the election outcome in advance. I’m not sure if you’ve ever heard about them before, or know what the word means, but if you need some help understanding polling and the margin of error altogether then I’m happy to share. Most polls are focused on swing states where the election will be decided. Biden is particularly not doing well in those states:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
Bullshit.
There’s THIS
and THIS
and THIS
Do you need more?
If you actually read those article you’d see that polling overestimated support for Biden and Democrats. So if polling already has Biden trailing and polls overestimate support, that isn’t helping your case.
Nah, a faceist