• chug@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I think more needs to be done when it comes to First Nations people and closing the gaps but just can’t get past the fact of allowing a group based on race to hold a position in parliament without being voted in each term by Australian voters.

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      They’re not in parliament; literally all this does is mandate that their lobby group exist, not that anyone has to listen to them… it’s not exactly a big ask

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      1 year ago

      They won’t hold a position in Parliament. That is not how this works at all.

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        1 year ago

        I understand they won’t hold a position within the upper or lower house but is it incorrect to say they won’t hold a position in parliament?

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          Yes, that is incorrect. The Voice would be an advisory committee that could make proactive and reactive recommendations to parliament and government. It would not be part of the parliament itself.

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            No worries. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Definitely need to read more before the referendum.

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              Yes, everyone needs to learn more. As this article showed, the trouble with referendums in Australia is that it is too easy for the No side to win just by sowing doubt amongst people who haven’t educated themselves. So many people who want to vote No don’t like the idea of change because they don’t understand what it means.

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          it is not correct. a position IN parliament is a very different thing; the voice is effectively a lobby group. The kind of thing BHP and Chanel 9 get without being a valuable part of Australia

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      It’s not a voice based on race, this is the biggest fallacy. It’s a voice for the traditional owners of a land that was never ceded.

      Is not because they’re aboriginal, it’s because they were here first.

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          It’s nonsense mate, just because you say it a little louder doesn’t make it any truer.

          I can do analogies as well,

          Let’s give a special privalege to all fruit that are really high in potassium.

          No it’s unfair to give bananas special treatment just because they’re yellow!