It just says The server returned this error: couldnt_find_community. This may be useful for admins and developers to diagnose and fix the error

I just randomly noticed that haven’t seen posts from dunk tank. It seems I got automatically unsubbed and now can’t even search it from lemmy ml instance.

  • Chronicon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Yeah there was a bit of a struggle session/squabble and your admins blocked that comm because people were being mean to them or something?

    this was the initial post: https://hexbear.net/post/2830702

    The post was eventually removed (after generating a lot of discussion and getting the original user in question banned from lemmy.ml)

    then there were some follow up posts more focused on two lemmy.ml admins that were perceived to have given the original reactionary mod way too much leniency and stood up for him. I think that perceived “targeting of admins” (criticizing them), is what prompted the defed of the_dunk_tank

    https://hexbear.net/post/2844167

    https://hexbear.net/post/2843745

    Some modlog sleuthing will be necessary if you want to read all the replies back and forth, as our mods removed a lot of the comments made by davel and such for “defending pedophilia” after he got very upset that people were “casually labeling someone a pedophile”

    I still don’t 100% understand what part of this necessitated blocking the_dunk_tank specifically or if that will last. I hope not, but I also don’t think users here were being unreasonable in being upset when they saw a guy with a long history of being shitty taking it beyond the pale, and some lemmy.ml admins rather than going “woah shit, guess that guy wasn’t salvageable, sorry”, came after us instead for being too aggressive about how we went after the guy and the admins that had seemingly enabled him. There was one user that may have had a personal grievance against one specific lemmy.ml admin, but even if that’s the case I don’t think that invalidates the rest of the genuine issues.

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      Oh damn. I remember the dunk tank posts. I didn’t know that they blocked afterwards. That’s very crybaby of them.

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        yeah… I had no opinion of him before this since I browse Local 99.5% of the time, but like you’d think after this long of us being federated he’d be familiar enough with our userbase to know A) that our heart is generally in the right place and B) that doubling down, yelling at us, and civility politics weren’t going to calm people down when he was seen as defending (for no good reason) a guy that had a long history of being shitty to begin with, and now was doing pedophile apologia.

        Going “Um actually, I defended him before the pedophile apologia” rings pretty hollow when he was still being super misogynist before that… Like you gotta at least lead with “this is beyond the pale and he needed to be banned”, if you conspicuously don’t condemn his statements and then go on to try and nitpick everything people are saying because you took it as a personal slight against you, people are going to think you actually might agree with the pedo apologist.

        Like genuinely, if he didn’t get so defensive, and explained how lemmy.ml’s moderation policies differ from hexbear’s, and that this user had been given perhaps one or two too many chances because they wanted to give him an opportunity to become a positive part of the community, which often sorely lacks the perspective of global south comrades, I personally would have been satisfied with that (though glad that I stick to hexbear)

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          we got a ton of rad global south and poc friends here that mls definitely missing out on by letting a piece of shit like that stay around for so long

          • Chronicon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            yeah that’s fair, I was being pretty generous to their excuse. I think their approach is misguided for that reason. We have managed to attract some of those people (global south and poc comrades) just by being principled and having a vibrant community, but lemmy.ml it feels like languished without a strong community before the reddit migration and was well, inundated with redditors after the migration. So they may have felt more desperate not to scare off global south comrades (if this is the case though, it clearly led them to making the wrong decision, repeatedly, and putting up with such shitlords probably scares away people you would actually want to have around way more than it could ever really convince the shitlords to change their views)

            Its an unenviable spot to be in though for dess/nutomic, trying to run a general use instance, as leftists, without getting defedded by all the libs but also without utterly compromising your principles. Not having a cohesive base community hurts them a lot IMO