Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney names four priorities for the proposed Voice to Parliament in a speech to the National Press Club, after growing pressure to detail how it would benefit First Nations people.
The ‘Progressive No’ movement has pretty valid reasons to be against it, though as a non-Indigenous Australian I find it very difficult to consider voting no myself. The fact that I actually get to vote on this is honestly ridiculous, particularly when my vote is worth twice that of someone who it is supposed to be benefiting.
You write that like they don’t both exist . And anyway, recognising the actions and policies of a political figure as being a polar opposite to your belief system is still a valid call.
The simple truth is this is how modern politics works, you take the wins you can and keep scraping and clawing away for more, it’s why the desperately avaricious are drawn to it.
What do you mean by your ‘vote is worth twice that of someone who it is supposed to be benefiting’?
Is that in reference to the ‘double-majority’, where NT and ACT don’t count for the ‘majority of States’ count (because a large number of Aboriginal and Torrest Strait islander people live in the NT)?
Yes, that’s correct. I live in SA, so my vote counts towards both majorities. Technically there are more Indigenous Australians living in the states than the territories (according to the ABS), but the NT is where a lot of the remaining Indigenous communities (who government “help” is usually targeted towards) reside.
Why not support the voice?
The ‘Progressive No’ movement has pretty valid reasons to be against it, though as a non-Indigenous Australian I find it very difficult to consider voting no myself. The fact that I actually get to vote on this is honestly ridiculous, particularly when my vote is worth twice that of someone who it is supposed to be benefiting.
I mean, the fact that Dutton is supporting No would be enough reason for me to vote Yes
Edit: I am not saying this is the only reason. I very much believe that the first nations peoples should have a Voice
Voting because someone else does or doesn’t vote this way or that is sport not politics. I would hope that most people take it far more seriously.
You write that like they don’t both exist . And anyway, recognising the actions and policies of a political figure as being a polar opposite to your belief system is still a valid call.
spite is a powerful motivator.
My guess is the reverse is true also in that Dutton supporters will vote no because he is.
The simple truth is this is how modern politics works, you take the wins you can and keep scraping and clawing away for more, it’s why the desperately avaricious are drawn to it.
Yeah they keep saying there is a sound progressive case for no, but even Thorpe had a mouthful of nothing when asked to elaborate.
Saying you have reasons that you then won’t state isn’t the same as an actual argument
What do you mean by your ‘vote is worth twice that of someone who it is supposed to be benefiting’?
Is that in reference to the ‘double-majority’, where NT and ACT don’t count for the ‘majority of States’ count (because a large number of Aboriginal and Torrest Strait islander people live in the NT)?
Yes, that’s correct. I live in SA, so my vote counts towards both majorities. Technically there are more Indigenous Australians living in the states than the territories (according to the ABS), but the NT is where a lot of the remaining Indigenous communities (who government “help” is usually targeted towards) reside.