Electric vs Gas
xkcd.com

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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that’s the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

  • hswolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
    123·
    6 months ago

    I’m all for efficient public transports in downtown, I use them daily myself, but people on suburbs won’t really see a benefit to this.

    On the other hand, just switching to electric is a nice start, otherwise we won’t be able to live much longer.

    • PlexSheep@infosec.pubEnglish
      62·
      6 months ago

      Especially people in suburbs would benefit from public transport and suburbs built for walk ability and cycling.

      • hswolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        6 months ago

        That’s the problem, only switching the transportation method isn’t enough, there’s a whole infrastructure behind that needs to be built.

        In most city centers you can kinda refurbish pre-existing systems, but in suburbs you need to build from scratch, and the distances are way bigger which imposes another challenge.

        Don’t get me wrong, im all for it, but we need to acknowledge these problems first.

        • JasonDJ@lemmy.zipEnglish
          4·
          6 months ago

          Suburbs are intentionally designed to not be walkable.

          To get to the neighbor behind my house, without cutting anybody’s yard, I have to walk about a mile. We aren’t far. His daughters play with my sons through our shared fence.

          And that’s a modest example. Plenty of cul de sacs that are “close” to the main street, as a crow flies but a lot further if you’re an East Asian Chinchilla Monkey running as fast as you can.

        • PlexSheep@infosec.pubEnglish
          2·
          6 months ago

          Correct. It can be done though. Getting stores and stuff into suburbs would help already, assuming we’re talking us style ones.

        • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          6 months ago

          Yeah, unfortunately the Levitt-town style of suburbs (which are all that’s allowed to be built nowadays) are largely incompatible with public transport. We need to fix zoning laws to allow pre-war style suburbs to be built again to make public transport feasible. And all of this will take awhile to fix