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    4 months ago

    Biden is not a populist who panders to everyone just to disappoint more than half of them. He has positions which he holds and an administration working towards them. You can either agree with the direction or not. Someone may not be thrilled about having a choice between two candidates, but that’s reality and nobody’s gonna game it by not voting, so pick an issue and decide is Biden going to be better or worse than Trump? Unless their a nazi or indoctrinated Christian nationalist, 99% of the time gen z should come to the logical conclusion.

    Edit: IMO Biden has been the most progressive Democratic Presidents in a long time

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      Biden is not a populist

      Since when is representing the people who elected you a bad thing?

      And why do people who think that, think voters will turn out for someone that doesn’t represent what they want?

      Edit: IMO Biden has been the most progressive Democratic Presidents in a long time

      That’s not an opinion, it’s a factual incorrect statement

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        I’m open to your, obviously, well researched factual response to who is a more progressive President.

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          So you make a ridiculous claim, get called on it, and then demand the other person prove you’re wrong?

          The way this works is you prove your own claim before you demand others refute it.

          Why would they put the time in if you won’t?

          Like, you need to realize you’re asking someone to explain something for your benefit. If the other person just stops replying, you lose because you didn’t learn anything

          At least ask politely dawg…

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            There are many things, but I think that H.R. 8404, the Respect for Marriage Act and the fact that he didn’t just sign it into law, he had a major event as a signing ceremony on the White House lawn to highlight it, is a great example of the kind of President he has been.

            https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/12/13/remarks-by-president-biden-and-vice-president-harris-at-signing-of-h-r-8404-the-respect-for-marriage-act/

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              H.R. 8404

              So…

              HR means it’s a bill that started in the House…

              And Biden has been very open the last four years about how a politicians view is their view and he can’t even change someone’s if they belong to his own party.

              So, and I’m just making sure here, you think Joe Biden is so progressive because he checks notes didn’t veto it?

              And instead he threw a big event and took credit for others peoples work?

              C’mon man, was that really the best you found?

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                He didn’t take credit, he actually detailed a lot of the credit due in his speech. But yes, it is the fact that he made a big deal about a progressive social issue that is an example of being more progressive than his predecessors. If you are looking for progressive things done without congressional action, you’re not going to find any, ever. That’s just not how our government works.

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                  Oh is this one of those things where a Biden supporter tries to convince people that.

                  1. The president is completely powerless

                  2. trump becoming president would be terrible, so we have to vote Biden

                  Cuz buddy, not being trump is pretty much the only reason people are voting Biden, because 1 is bullshit

                  But we’d have a lot better chance beating trump with a president whose ambitions are higher than not dying in office.

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                    Not powerless, but the fear of Trump (IMO a founded fear) is that he would abuse the office and be permitted to do so by his party members in Congress. I understand that people want Biden to do the same thing (for a real and good cause) but that would also be the end of American democracy.