Ahh, yes. The classic way to combat authoritarianism: with more authoritarianism. “If you disagree with the party line your voice must be silenced.”
And since I know your kind tend to assume things that aren’t said: I’m not saying don’t vote. I will vote Dem in November, but I’m very close to my breaking limit on voting for people that constantly disparage me. I am saying that the kind of thinking you’ve displayed here is just as much of an existential threat to the US as the MAGA cult. Refusing to hold the Democrats accountable for anything ever (because it’s “not the right time”) is just a slower death.
Ahh, yes. The classic straw man. Accuse the author of something they didn’t say, or imply, but something you can summon a paragraph of nonsense to support flawed thinking.
Did say silenced? No. I said CALLED OUT. As in- flush them out for the bullshit they’re spreading.
You claim you’re voting. So clearly this isn’t directed at you anyway. Unless of course you’re just saying you’re voting so that you could follow it with the… “but maybe I won’t if people don’t stop being mean to people that are telling other NOT to vote!”
Oh, gotcha. So bullying people who don’t pass your litmus test (whether or not they actually believe or are what you claim) until they leave isn’t silencing the voices of people who disagree with you.
Labeling people “bad actors” simply for expressing an opinion counter to yours and then trying to run them out is 100% bullying. You are not the arbiter of what people are allowed to think.
I’ve seen from comments in this post that you yourself don’t like having words put in your mouth, yet here you are doing it to me.
People here to sway an election by trying to convince people not to vote?
Yeah. They’re bad actors. There’s other words for them, but I’d rather not get banned. -and contrary to your assumptions… It has NOTHING to do with their opinions being counter to mine. I could care less what their opinion were if their opinions were organic and relevant. But NONE of them are here to discuss anything in good faith. The moment you challenge their bullshit, they either ignorantly accuse you of ad hominem- or they shut all over the discussion to derail the topic.
This isn’t day one of this shit man. It’s been going on plenty long enough to accurately gauge what they’re up to.
They don’t belong here. So… calling them out for what they are with the hope that their message falls flat is absolutely necessary. If they get bored and leave…
Absolutely correct. And when you see them here on lemmy, and there are a TON of them suggesting not to vote-
CALL THEM OUT.
I would LOVE to see a movement form to start pushing these bad actors out of here.
They don’t care and double down. I tag them as “Pro US Fascism” and move on.
Ahh, yes. The classic way to combat authoritarianism: with more authoritarianism. “If you disagree with the party line your voice must be silenced.”
And since I know your kind tend to assume things that aren’t said: I’m not saying don’t vote. I will vote Dem in November, but I’m very close to my breaking limit on voting for people that constantly disparage me. I am saying that the kind of thinking you’ve displayed here is just as much of an existential threat to the US as the MAGA cult. Refusing to hold the Democrats accountable for anything ever (because it’s “not the right time”) is just a slower death.
Ahh, yes. The classic straw man. Accuse the author of something they didn’t say, or imply, but something you can summon a paragraph of nonsense to support flawed thinking.
Did say silenced? No. I said CALLED OUT. As in- flush them out for the bullshit they’re spreading.
You claim you’re voting. So clearly this isn’t directed at you anyway. Unless of course you’re just saying you’re voting so that you could follow it with the… “but maybe I won’t if people don’t stop being mean to people that are telling other NOT to vote!”
You said called out AND pushed out. How is pushing them out not silencing them?
If they chose to leave because they don’t like being called out- that’s a bonus.
Oh, gotcha. So bullying people who don’t pass your litmus test (whether or not they actually believe or are what you claim) until they leave isn’t silencing the voices of people who disagree with you.
Calling out bad actors is not bullying. You’re not a victim.
Labeling people “bad actors” simply for expressing an opinion counter to yours and then trying to run them out is 100% bullying. You are not the arbiter of what people are allowed to think.
I’ve seen from comments in this post that you yourself don’t like having words put in your mouth, yet here you are doing it to me.
People here to sway an election by trying to convince people not to vote?
Yeah. They’re bad actors. There’s other words for them, but I’d rather not get banned. -and contrary to your assumptions… It has NOTHING to do with their opinions being counter to mine. I could care less what their opinion were if their opinions were organic and relevant. But NONE of them are here to discuss anything in good faith. The moment you challenge their bullshit, they either ignorantly accuse you of ad hominem- or they shut all over the discussion to derail the topic.
This isn’t day one of this shit man. It’s been going on plenty long enough to accurately gauge what they’re up to.
They don’t belong here. So… calling them out for what they are with the hope that their message falls flat is absolutely necessary. If they get bored and leave…
That’s a bonus.
I agree.