Not the same thing. One is a misjudgement that is part of the game (judging where your off stump is is a fundamental part of cricket).
One is a misjudgement about the state of the game, and doesn’t really relate to the core skills of the game.
As I said, Aus were will within their rights to do what they did. But other teams have withdrawn appeals in similar situations, and that is considered good sportsmanship. You can debate whether that has a place in the game or not, but Aus could have withdrawn their appeal, it wouldn’t have been unprecedented, and would have reflected well on them, at least from neutral’s perspectives.
Batting isn’t just the skill of hitting a ball, it’s also the athleticism and tactics of running. The batsman’s position in relation to the crease is a fundamental concept in batting tactics. This is absolutely not a case where the batsman would generally be considered ok to absent-mindedly wander outside the crease, such as for the off-strike batsman during a bowler’s run-up. There is no substance to the principle argument like with a mankad-style dismissal, just the vague suggestion that the fielding team should reasonably allow the batsman to self-determine whether the ball is live or dead.
It’s really not a neutral-sounding argument. McCullum has dismissed the same way, Bairstow has attempted to dismiss the same way, yet you’re holding Australia to this imaginary standard of sportsmanship which none of the involved parties can hope to live up to.
Not the same thing. One is a misjudgement that is part of the game (judging where your off stump is is a fundamental part of cricket).
One is a misjudgement about the state of the game, and doesn’t really relate to the core skills of the game.
As I said, Aus were will within their rights to do what they did. But other teams have withdrawn appeals in similar situations, and that is considered good sportsmanship. You can debate whether that has a place in the game or not, but Aus could have withdrawn their appeal, it wouldn’t have been unprecedented, and would have reflected well on them, at least from neutral’s perspectives.
Batting isn’t just the skill of hitting a ball, it’s also the athleticism and tactics of running. The batsman’s position in relation to the crease is a fundamental concept in batting tactics. This is absolutely not a case where the batsman would generally be considered ok to absent-mindedly wander outside the crease, such as for the off-strike batsman during a bowler’s run-up. There is no substance to the principle argument like with a mankad-style dismissal, just the vague suggestion that the fielding team should reasonably allow the batsman to self-determine whether the ball is live or dead.
It’s really not a neutral-sounding argument. McCullum has dismissed the same way, Bairstow has attempted to dismiss the same way, yet you’re holding Australia to this imaginary standard of sportsmanship which none of the involved parties can hope to live up to.