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    6 months ago

    University Network for Human Rights, the International Human Rights Clinic at Boston University School of Law, the International Human Rights Clinic at Cornell Law School, the Centre for Human Rights at the University of Pretoria, and the Lowenstein Human Rights Project at Yale Law School

    Crazy. I never expected to see big Ivy League school names there but here we are. Even the most status quo and US aligned universities are now calling it a genocide.

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      To be fair there’s a pretty big difference between the professors and the administration. The university boards haven’t changed their position because wealthy alumni threatened to stop giving money. (This is also what got the president of Harvard fired.)

      Professors have been out there with the students the entire time.

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    Nice to have some big institutions put their name in it. Albeit rather late.

    I have come to the conclusion most people do not have functioning eyes and brains and will only listen to authority. So this can be linked to them.

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    To the “no shit” and “this is obvious” people, agreed. However, “this is obvious, just look” is nowhere near as good an argument as one with actual data. Especially when looked at in the future with a historical lens.

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    “Study makes an obvious conclusion everybody with half a brain cell made months prior.”

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        Probably the fact that they started a war on Oct. 7th that they can’t win, as a starting point for escalation of conflict specifically.

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          Probably the fact that they started a war on Oct. 7th that they can’t win, as a starting point for escalation of conflict specifically.

          So you are going to just ignore 76 years of history about this situation? Also Palestinians did not attack on 7 October 2023, it was Hamas. Normal Palestinian civilians are innocent. I will once again copy-past what, I said to another Lemmy user because it seems some particular people can’t (or won’t) do research themselves:

          ‘’Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

          Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the horrifying things Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.’’

          If you want to go on the route ‘’who started this war’’; it’d be Israel and Britian who ‘’gave’’ the land to them.

          that they can’t win, as a starting point for escalation of conflict specifically.

          Obvious they cannot ‘win’ because it’s Israel state and the US country (US giving billions to Israel) versus a group of people. Hamas want their land, homes and humans right back.

          The normal Palestinian civilians do not even want to fight at all. All they want is have human rights, be able to be free from occupation, torture. They don’t want to their entire families to be murdered out just because they’re Palestinians. It’s immensely bad what Hamas done on 7 October but it’s also immensely bad what Israel has been doing since 1948 up until 2024 (ongoing). If you push people far enough, they will fight back in the worst way possible and that’s happened.

          Also imagine this; you are in your house with five family members. Suddenly group of 10 strangers force their way into your home, kill all your family members and force you in the bathroom for 10 years. For 10 years they have been living now, you manage to escape, fight back and kill several of these people. Now suddenly you are the aggressor, committed a crime and they (who took your home and killed your family) are the victims. That do be insane if it really happens right?

          Well newsflash, that is truly happening to the Palestinian people.

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      The other nations don’t want to give Israel an excuse for a displacement genocide, they want the world to see Israel for what it is.

      If they accept the refugees Israel isn’t going to let them go home eventually. If they don’t, Israel either stops or kills everyone.

      This makes your average Palestinians a diplomatic pawn, but that’s rarely a problem to the ruling class no matter their nation.

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    The “study” appears to be a paper from a student group at a liberal arts university in Wesleyan, Connecticut.

    While I’m sure Wesleyan University is a fine school, calling it a “coalition of prestigious academic institutions” is a bit of a stretch.

    So… uni students upset over things they saw on TikTok put 105 pages of whatever crap they could dreg up from the internet into a PDF and post it onto their squarespace page. “Middle East Monitor” links to the “study” says it’s from a “coalition of prestigious academic institutions”. And then a link to this “news” site gets posted to Lemmy.

    And here we are.

    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      The study, conducted by the University Network for Human Rights, the International Human Rights Clinic at Boston University School of Law, the International Human Rights Clinic at Cornell Law School, the Centre for Human Rights at the University of Pretoria, and the Lowenstein Human Rights Project at Yale Law School, presents a thorough legal analysis of Israel’s conduct in the context of the Genocide Convention of 1948.

      I think you read the wrong article or hasbara answer

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        Ah… some other student groups joined in.

        They don’t mention their associations with these other universities on their squarespace page. But there’s some coalition that the “University Network for Human Rights” is a part of, so maybe these other groups are a part of that?

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          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cavallaro

          James Cavallaro is a law professor that teaches or has taught at Wesleyan… And also Yale, Columbia, and UC Berkeley. He’s currently the executive director of the University Network for Human Rights, and before that founded the International Human Rights and Conflict Resolution Clinic at, uh let’s see here… Oh yeah, Stanford.

          Also, Wesleyan University, by the way, rivals Ivy League schools as far as academic rigor goes.

          You trying to diminish the validity of these organizations would work a lot better if you bothered to Google them for five seconds first.