It’s pretty foolish for a lesbian to support the fascism of that era, yes. The UK fascism post-wwi was in support of the rise of the Nazi party, which was pretty happy to kill homosexuals.
Would seem to be, and probably should be if self preservation enters the mind of the person in question, but ideologies, even those that would seem to have a pretty narrow appeal can (at least at a surface level) make themselves appealing to people of all sorts.
A current example of this would be Alice Weidel, AfD. A lesbian in a German facist party who spends most of her time (allegedly) in Switzerland at her partners place.
Ernst Rohm (an out gay man) was in the previous iteration right up until he was no longer useful to the state/party apparatus.
Hell, Mussolini was originally a Communist who, I guess, decided he was tired of working on making a better world and decided to settle for immediately making a worse one because at least he’d be in charge of part of it.
You underestimate the human potential for contradiction. Ernst Röhm entered the chat to tell you that homosexual fascists are in fact a thing, a niche thing but nonetheless a known phenomenon. There is a great documentary about gay men in the neonazi scene by Rosa von Praunheim, called “Männer, Helden, schwule Nazis” not sure if it is available in english though.
I seriously doubt that. There were probably still Nazis who were secretly homosexual when the war ended.
When they “purged” Röhm that was simply because they saw him as a threat because he commanded the SA which had grown into a serious power factor in the Reich. His homosexuality was utilized as a pretence against him to destroy his reputation afterwards but it was not the reason they took him out.
Ernst Röhm, nor any of the Brown Shirts for that matter where openly homosexual.
Why ? Because a lesbian can’t be fascist?
Less “can’t” and more “homophobia is generally associated with fascism”. Like how Ernst Rohm and the early SA were outliers.
Röhm also liked them young.
It’s pretty foolish for a lesbian to support the fascism of that era, yes. The UK fascism post-wwi was in support of the rise of the Nazi party, which was pretty happy to kill homosexuals.
Yes, the two are incompatible
Would seem to be, and probably should be if self preservation enters the mind of the person in question, but ideologies, even those that would seem to have a pretty narrow appeal can (at least at a surface level) make themselves appealing to people of all sorts.
A current example of this would be Alice Weidel, AfD. A lesbian in a German facist party who spends most of her time (allegedly) in Switzerland at her partners place.
Ernst Rohm (an out gay man) was in the previous iteration right up until he was no longer useful to the state/party apparatus.
Hell, Mussolini was originally a Communist who, I guess, decided he was tired of working on making a better world and decided to settle for immediately making a worse one because at least he’d be in charge of part of it.
You underestimate the human potential for contradiction. Ernst Röhm entered the chat to tell you that homosexual fascists are in fact a thing, a niche thing but nonetheless a known phenomenon. There is a great documentary about gay men in the neonazi scene by Rosa von Praunheim, called “Männer, Helden, schwule Nazis” not sure if it is available in english though.
Yes. There even was Nazi Jews…
They where all purged. Ernst Röhm, nor any of the Brown Shirts for that matter where openly homosexual.
I seriously doubt that. There were probably still Nazis who were secretly homosexual when the war ended.
When they “purged” Röhm that was simply because they saw him as a threat because he commanded the SA which had grown into a serious power factor in the Reich. His homosexuality was utilized as a pretence against him to destroy his reputation afterwards but it was not the reason they took him out.
I never used the word open …