Poor guy just wanted to spread vicious lies about people whose children were murdered. Who amongst us hasn’t done that?
My grandma who died in the hospital was a false flag operation.
Please buy my dick pills!
His 93-year-old grandmother died of breast cancer, and he chalked it up to her getting the Polio vaccine 60 years earlier, so this is pretty accurate.
Agreed. His fake tears really moved me and my family. Where can we donate?
Good, leave this piece of shit broke and living under a bridge. He deserves FAR more than he’s gotten thus far. Fuck him!
What’s wild is that this skid mark on the underpants of society will probably always somehow have enough of a following to keep himself comfortable. What a world we live in.
The liquidation of Jones’ assets does not mean that Infowars will cease to exist. Several outcomes are possible. The court-appointed trustee could sell the business to another owner, for instance.
Don’t celebrate too soon. Some shadowy investors are going to bail him out.
The families are not super money motivated. They could just accept the company in the same way OJ Simpson lost his book rights.
Accept the company as payment and put up a youtube video of the set getting burned in the parking lot. After all infowars become a wikipage debunking every single lie told on the program.
The most devastating insult they could accomplish, if they’re simply handed his assets relatively untouched, is to turn it into a reputable, top-tier news organization. Now that would be delightfully karmic.
But the brands value is in the personality. Killing info wars only creates an opportunity for him to create Schminfo Schwarz with little hiccup. Buying sets and whatnot with business partners is trivial. People make podcasts in their closets at home.
That is always going to happen but losing the infowars brand is really bad and the cost of reestablishing a recognizable brand from basically scratch is very expensive and difficult. I would argue that losing the brand is worse for him than any other asset he has.
The brand means nothing. It literally just means Alex Jones to everyone. If Alex Jones isnt on info wars then infowars dies. Wherever Jones goes he’ll do the same thing and have the same audience.
People keep saying that but every time a chud gets deplatformed their numbers gets decimated. A lot follows you but not everyone and growth takes a massive hit because all the boomers finding the show on Facebook will try to go to infowars because that’s where the 2 year old video is telling you to go.
Video backlog is fucked, SEO is fucked. They can go ahead and search for Alex Jones but you only get results of him getting fucked but not where to go because the new website doesn’t have good standing yet with Google because nobody is linking to your new page.
He hasn’t been deplatformed. He lost a brand name that is synonymous with himself. He can add a 2 to his web addresses and be right back where he is in a few days. Frankly all this attention he’s getting from the media will probably just help him accomplish that. His listeners are total morons, but they are also addicted to his bullshit. Addicts find their shit, Even the dumb ones.
Losing your brand and website is being deplattfomed. People act like it’s a binary thing where deplattforming either needs to wipe you off the face of the earth or it was pointless. The disruption will cost him viewers because while he sets up a new base his viewers will get bored and go to watch other things.
Not everyone will get bored, but enough people will move on for it to be a real concern for Alex Jones.
Ask any creator on the internet how bad a disruption in viewership is.
The brand means nothing. It literally just means Alex Jones to everyone. If Alex Jones isnt on info wars then infowars dies
Yep. Pop-quiz for anyone (not you, Knowledge Fight wonks!):
Can you name literally any other host who has a show on InfoWars, without looking up their names?
I’m a knowledge fight wonk but if I wasn’t I’d say “that guy that failed to marry Christina Ricci”
He’s been telling his listeners not to buy from his store, but to buy directly from his dad’s website (who is a sponsor on his show and sells their “health” products though the show).
For those who don’t get it: If they buy from the Infowars store, those assets can be seized. If they buy from his dad, the assets are protected because his dad wasn’t the one who got sued. It’s a very blatant asset-hiding scheme.
Imagine if the owner of a big brand were going bankrupt and had to sell off all of their assets, (including the holdings for the store.) So instead, they start telling people to buy from their dad’s store, which is virtually identical in every way and the only difference is that the money ends up in your dad’s account instead of yours. It’s intentionally poisoning the asset seizure, by refusing to continue operating as a shop prior to your bankruptcy.
RICO charges for Jones?
I think it’s more likely that someone else buys it for the audience it already has, not for Alex, and uses that for good or ill. It could end up as more of the same, or it could get much better or worse.
Worst case the new owner employ Jones afterwards
The sandy hook families do have a say in this process (they turned down a “let jones use his ad revenue to pay them back” plan)
Of course, there are many billionaires in the US who would spend what for them is nothing but small change to bail Jones out and setup a new operation for him. Musk, the Kochs, the Mercers, the list goes on.
They should turn infowars into a conspiracy debunking site.
Ok or I could multiply my eggs before they hatch by hoping Soros or some other right wing boogie man buys it haha
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He should be in jail, although this is probably cheaper.
He should be in a pillory, carted around to major cities all over the US so everyone can get a chance to huck tomatoes at him.
Wouldn’t he be able to settle the debt through bankruptcy?
Pretty much only student loans can put you into perpetual debt in the US.
I thought he already declared bankruptcy …
Yeah, apparently if you caused the damages on purpose, the court can reject discharging the debt: https://www.bankruptcypower.com/blog/understanding-the-willful-and-malicious-injury-exception-to-debt-discharge/
I have no experience with bankruptcy but I always thought you were pretty much clear after something like chapter 7, unless it was debt to the government.
So did i, guess we were wrong
There are quite a few non-dischargeable debts. When it comes to legal judgments, if the damaged party objects to dismissal of the debt, it can remain, particularly if liens are involved. Liens can’t usually be discharged. That may be why Jones is seeking to liquidate. He can then start fresh using an company that he doesn’t own (but does control) to shield new assets. For instance, the company can provide him vehicles, a home, and an expense account. The company owns the real property, and the expense account is not considered personal income as long as it’s for “business expenses”. That limits the amount of his personal income subject to garnishment. I only hope that there’s a bidding war on Infowars so that his new company can’t afford it - and so the victims get max restitution.
I really doubt that. No way he is going to be on like food stamps. Oh sure I would like that to happen. I would like him experience the suffering he inflicted on people who had their children fucking murdered. I would love to send a chilling message to all would be copycats but well…he is rich
I hope they follow him everywhere in public and tell everyone listening what he did.
Well, this past weekend, he talked as if it was his last show, that they were “gonna put the padlocks on the building and close us down” and that he knew they were going to do that because his powers told him so, powers from God. They even did a greatest hits with guests like Roger stone, Steve bannon, and Nick Fuentes and best of all, Flat Earth Dave (not really best of all but it was a hell of a segment). They also had actual clips of past times Alex has been, well, Alex. He also pretty clearly got drunk during the show. But this isn’t the end for him. He’ll just go work for his dad doing the exact same thing. As Alex has frequently said, his dad is basically his only sponsor now. So whatever happens to infowars, this isn’t the end of Alex Jones. Even if it should be.
As I understand it, civil judgements are not dischargeable in bankruptcy. Even if Alex sells everything he owns, that won’t be enough to pay off his share of the judgement and so any income he makes post-Infowars will be subject to garnishment.
So yeah. He’ll continue making the right-wing circles, and he’ll be hawking his dad’s boner pills, but at least the Sandy Hook families will start getting what he owes them.
Unfortunately there are still a million ways for him to live in luxury and not have any “official” income.
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That’s of course what he’ll do, and unfortunately I think there is little that can be done legally.
Yes, but the families can keep going after him for failing to pay.
Which is probably his goal, since his entire legal strategy so far has been to delay: hope the families and/or their lawyers stop going after him due to the massive amount of time and money it would cost to keep taking him to court.
You’re missing the point - they can only go after his money or his company’s money. He has people around him who he could work as a minimum wage employee for (on paper), while living on “their” money.
A fellow wonk, I see. “They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie”
Remember folks, if it can happen to him, it can happen to you!
Don’t let the gay frogs win, buy your male enhancement supplements asap!
I can’t help but imagine a world ruled by gay frogs. The devastation of bug stocks, the rising water levels, the overpopulation. Glad we’re in charge.
Gay frogs gonna overpopulate?
The eventuality of ambient environmental frog semen will necessarily alter the froggy life cycle. All water will become saltwater. All frogs will become saltwater compliant.
Gay frogs: 1
Alex: 0
I guess, but it’s the chemicals in the water that did this… not him
Cool. Pollution control is a very good thing
My dear friend the great fact checker disinformation expert journalist Brooke Binkowski, former editor of Snopes helped take him down. I am proud to know her.
You made her title so convoluted I am now unsure if she is expert fact checker who combats disinformation or expert on spreading disinformation while pretending to be a fact checker. 🤔
She is just All The Things. But it’s the former.
Infowars is too good of a propaganda outlet for Putin and other oligarchs to let slip away. Entertainment for idiots is also too good a grift.
Oh don’t worry, I’m absolutely certain it will return with a new host. Just because Jones isn’t allowed on it anymore doesn’t mean they have to throw out the entire propaganda outlet. Like you said, it’s too valuable, and him making money by liquidating/selling it means that someone, somewhere, is buying it.
So infowars is likely to be sold. To whom? I’m hoping comedy central picks it up and turns out into a recurring segment on the daily show
Or HBO. Last Infowars with John Oliver sounds awesome.
It’ll probably get picked up by the worst people, some Conservative Corp or rich asshole, or else it’ll be auctioned off for pennies on the dollar and being buried or turned into an anti-conservative landing site.
How come I read that in a German accent?
Oh no!..Anyways…
