• KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    If you mean that everyone was subject to murder and repression equally in the Soviet Union (not just gay or trans people), then you’re right.

    I watched a documentary on the Soviet Union that discussed Gorbachev at one point. He was from farm country. His paternal grandfather disliked the collectivization of the farms and was sent to the gulag. His maternal grandfather supported the collectivization of the farms and worked for the local farm collective. He was also send to the gulag…

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      6 months ago

      No I mean exactly what I had said, and no I am speaking of pre Stalins USSR.

      Russia was incredibly poor and exploited by the west as well as they’re own ruling class pre USSR, things got much better for the Russian working class and its truly astonishing that a country of that time and coming from such turmoil would legalise homosexuality especially when contrasted with western countries.

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        I am speaking of pre Stalins USSR.

        So you’re talking about the 2 year period after the USSR was ravaged by civil war?

        Serving in the Russian Civil War before overseeing the Soviet Union’s establishment in 1922, he rose to leader of the country following Lenin’s death in 1924.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

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          Dude, just read their link. The Russian Soviet Republic from 1917 - 1933 (which also sported the hammer and sickle) was (for its time) extremely friendly to homosexual people.

          They simply erroneously spoke of the precursor to the USSR as the USSR.

          Given the topic it’s not a big issue, especially since soviet republics as well as the hammer and sickle iconography predate the USSR by quite some time.

          Steelmaning peoples arguments is cool, strawmaning them not.

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            Yeah it isn’t like Imperial Russia had a framework for LGBT acceptance. That there was any period at all of acceptance, legal or otherwise, was revolutionary.