• flora_explora@beehaw.org
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    6 months ago

    They actually don’t have a metabolism, that’s why they don’t fall into the definition of life in the first place.

    Source Wikipedia: “Although they have genes, they do not have a cellular structure, which is often seen as the basic unit of life. Viruses do not have their own metabolism and require a host cell to make new products. They therefore cannot naturally reproduce outside a host cell”

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      6 months ago

      Man, all these biologists going on about cell structure are in for a rude awakening when we run into silicon based life forms. Or even Commander Data

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          6 months ago

          Why can’t they be fascinated and produce a universalisable definition now? How am I supposed to trust their opinion of whether a virus is alive if they can’t even get Commander Data right? Commander Data is way easier to philosophically understand than a virus.

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            6 months ago

            Sorry, I’m unfortunately too much of a literal, analytical thinker to continue this line of joking. Maybe I don’t even fall into the definition of life myself, who knows…

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              6 months ago

              I’m not joking, I genuinely disagree with the mainstream classification of viruses and Commander Data is genuinely an important cultural symbol for these issues.

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                6 months ago

                Ah OK, I couldn’t tell. So what would you say would be a better definition and what would you like to see included? I’m not really familiar with Data, maybe some background would be helpful…

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                    6 months ago

                    Hm, I see how this would be universal. But at how do you define ‘secure its own existence’? Is the sun a living being because it keep on burning? Are some chemical reactions that preserve the environment they are happening in living beings? Are any cyclical reactions or maybe even the nutrient cycles or water cycles living beings? The more you get into the details of what life is and isn’t, the more you see that it probably isn’t a binary distinction between living and not living.