In addition to the men who are pushing these laws are the women who have bought into the same misogyny and support women being forced to stay in marriage. Frequently the same women who oppose abortion rights.
It is primarily men, but they wouldn’t be successful without that support.
The fact that there are women who support this bullshit is something my mind can’t comprehend. Are they sociopaths, sycophants, brainwashed… or all of the above?
I try to be mindfully empathetic and attempt to understand differing opinions even if i disagree…but I really struggle with this one. I just can’t get there.
Ok, so I know this is about the most obvious suggestion possible on this subject, but if you haven’t, and if you get a chance, read The Handmaid’s Tale and its sequel, The Testaments.
They both have some really fascinating portrayals of women being or becoming complicit in the oppression of other women by a male-dominated system (while still also being oppressed themselves - their complicity is often a way of surviving in that system).
They’re obviously not the be all and end all of the subject, but they really made me think about the kind of people you’re describing, because I have (and still do) often felt the same - how can they do these things to other women?
Thank you for the suggestion!
I’ve been meaning to read handmaid’s tale, and I didn’t know there was a sequel. I’ll have to get them as audio books to listen to at work. Anything to help me understand what’s going through their heads.
They already have. Idaho got away with criminalizing abortion, which means 2/3 of the states will do the same next session, just like how 2/3 of the states still allow for you to be paid $7 an hour.
In the absence of a true opposition party, the wolves are feasting.
You used to be able to count on Democrats to fight for social issues, at least. The Dems we have now are only concerned with increasing their own wealth, and that was very well-evidenced by their response to the Roe vs Wade leaks. Do you recall their response? They used it to fundraise and did nothing else. ($80,000,000 was the cost of your rights to bodily autonomy, in case you’re curious.)
And now 2/3 of the states will get away with criminalizing abortion within another year or two, tops.
I remember when, in his first SOTU, Joe Biden mocked the Defund The Police movement, and called for increased police funding, even though the police are overtly fascist in most of the country and we all had just watched them proudly execute a man in the streets.
Now he’s sending more bombs to Israel.
If you’re telling yourself the Dems are the answer, I think you’re just asleep at the wheel here.
And in case you haven’t been paying attention, the Trump fascists want to undo all that with Project 2025.
Of course they want no fault divorce gone. They want their spouses stuck with them and unable to flee from the insanity.
Yeah I actually came across this statistic in this article about those guys wanting to make divorce much harder, which linked to the study: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/05/no-fault-divorce-gop-republicans-mainstream-podcast-dudes/
In addition to the men who are pushing these laws are the women who have bought into the same misogyny and support women being forced to stay in marriage. Frequently the same women who oppose abortion rights.
It is primarily men, but they wouldn’t be successful without that support.
The fact that there are women who support this bullshit is something my mind can’t comprehend. Are they sociopaths, sycophants, brainwashed… or all of the above? I try to be mindfully empathetic and attempt to understand differing opinions even if i disagree…but I really struggle with this one. I just can’t get there.
Ok, so I know this is about the most obvious suggestion possible on this subject, but if you haven’t, and if you get a chance, read The Handmaid’s Tale and its sequel, The Testaments.
They both have some really fascinating portrayals of women being or becoming complicit in the oppression of other women by a male-dominated system (while still also being oppressed themselves - their complicity is often a way of surviving in that system).
They’re obviously not the be all and end all of the subject, but they really made me think about the kind of people you’re describing, because I have (and still do) often felt the same - how can they do these things to other women?
Thank you for the suggestion! I’ve been meaning to read handmaid’s tale, and I didn’t know there was a sequel. I’ll have to get them as audio books to listen to at work. Anything to help me understand what’s going through their heads.
No problem, and I’m thrilled to have recommended it to someone who hasn’t read it yet! :-)
The sequel is good, but not as good as the original IMO. The original is magnificent. Devastating at times, but definitely one to read.
There’s no ‘want’ to it.
They already have. Idaho got away with criminalizing abortion, which means 2/3 of the states will do the same next session, just like how 2/3 of the states still allow for you to be paid $7 an hour.
In the absence of a true opposition party, the wolves are feasting.
“bUt DeMs SaMe!”
-some white kid trying to excuse themselves from their civic duty
That’s the thing.
You used to be able to count on Democrats to fight for social issues, at least. The Dems we have now are only concerned with increasing their own wealth, and that was very well-evidenced by their response to the Roe vs Wade leaks. Do you recall their response? They used it to fundraise and did nothing else. ($80,000,000 was the cost of your rights to bodily autonomy, in case you’re curious.)
And now 2/3 of the states will get away with criminalizing abortion within another year or two, tops.
I remember when, in his first SOTU, Joe Biden mocked the Defund The Police movement, and called for increased police funding, even though the police are overtly fascist in most of the country and we all had just watched them proudly execute a man in the streets.
Now he’s sending more bombs to Israel.
If you’re telling yourself the Dems are the answer, I think you’re just asleep at the wheel here.