If you wanna get all brutal and how it is in America about it, I am thinking more about giving the kids a chance to say good bye than actually getting help.
We have established that noone who could actually do something about it cares about all of the kids getting murdered in America schools.
Edit: And remember. While Uvalde cops sat outside and wet their pampers, a mother overpowered them to get children evacuated. A mother who was… notified by their child with a cell phone… and later faced criminal charges for it.
I understand and empathize with the point you are trying to make. School shootings are the worst possible tragedies.
That said, I still do not think we should shape school cell phone policies around the off chance of a school shooting (please do not chastise my use of ‘off chance’. The fact that it happens at all is too much, but I think the chance that it happens to any one school is still pretty low).
I don’t think guns and phones in school are even the same conversation to be honest. I think that’s my trouble with the other commenter’s approach to the conversation.
That’s not what I’m trying to say. The article is about cell phone policy in schools. The discussion got into gun control because Melkath feels like cell phones should be universally allowed in schools because kids should be able to call their parents during school shootings.
I’m eager to talk about gun control. I’m also eager to talk about cell phones in school.
I fail to see how gun violence in schools is at all related to cell phone policies in school. The attempt to link them together, as if cell phones must exist in schools because we can’t deal with gun violence, is laughable.
You are treating me as though I don’t care about the victims of school shootings at all and I don’t appreciate that. You couldn’t have a decent conversation with me without putting your own words in my mouth and then blowing up at me for saying them. As I try to exit the conversation you feel the need to cut me down again.
Maybe you should learn how to hold a normal discussion without attacking the other party. Cursing and telling the other party to fuck off just because they disagree with you will not convinced anyone of anything and will only make you look bad. It’s not like the person you’re responding to is advocating for school shootings or anything else immoral.
Buying a kid a smartphone for normal life AND a dumbphone for school sounds expensive. A lot of kids in America can’t even afford lunch, how are they supposed to own two phones??
Edit: Wait, I get it. So now kids have their at home phone AND their parents also pay for their “you’re at school so this is how you get us your last words in the event of a shooting” phone.
Again, genius.
Parents needing to pay MORE money they don’t have and kids have ANOTHER reminder of how their job is basically to obey AND very possibly be killed while obeying.
So much better of a solution instead of MOTHER FUCKING GUN CONTROL.
Take away kids ability to communicate with family and law enforcement when they get shot up.
Genius idea.
I hate school shootings as much as you, but I don’t think cell phones do much help once the shooter is in the building.
Edit: Uvalde would be a good example where the shooter was identified and authorities were called while the shooter was still outside the building.
If you wanna get all brutal and how it is in America about it, I am thinking more about giving the kids a chance to say good bye than actually getting help.
We have established that noone who could actually do something about it cares about all of the kids getting murdered in America schools.
Edit: And remember. While Uvalde cops sat outside and wet their pampers, a mother overpowered them to get children evacuated. A mother who was… notified by their child with a cell phone… and later faced criminal charges for it.
I understand and empathize with the point you are trying to make. School shootings are the worst possible tragedies.
That said, I still do not think we should shape school cell phone policies around the off chance of a school shooting (please do not chastise my use of ‘off chance’. The fact that it happens at all is too much, but I think the chance that it happens to any one school is still pretty low).
Hmm good point. Let’s ban guns and then ban cellphones from schools
I don’t think guns and phones in school are even the same conversation to be honest. I think that’s my trouble with the other commenter’s approach to the conversation.
Gotcha it is once again not time to talk about gun control.
We should go back to talking about Tik Tok. The real threat to children.
That’s not what I’m trying to say. The article is about cell phone policy in schools. The discussion got into gun control because Melkath feels like cell phones should be universally allowed in schools because kids should be able to call their parents during school shootings.
I’m eager to talk about gun control. I’m also eager to talk about cell phones in school.
I fail to see how gun violence in schools is at all related to cell phone policies in school. The attempt to link them together, as if cell phones must exist in schools because we can’t deal with gun violence, is laughable.
Edit: also I never mentioned TikTok.
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Thanks for a thoughtful conversation. Have a good day.
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You are treating me as though I don’t care about the victims of school shootings at all and I don’t appreciate that. You couldn’t have a decent conversation with me without putting your own words in my mouth and then blowing up at me for saying them. As I try to exit the conversation you feel the need to cut me down again.
So, have a good day.
Maybe you should learn how to hold a normal discussion without attacking the other party. Cursing and telling the other party to fuck off just because they disagree with you will not convinced anyone of anything and will only make you look bad. It’s not like the person you’re responding to is advocating for school shootings or anything else immoral.
Thanks friend.
Eyo! Report this shit next time! Rule 3, dude/person was a douchebag.
The article covers that, simple devices that don’t have Internet are allowed.
Buying a kid a smartphone for normal life AND a dumbphone for school sounds expensive. A lot of kids in America can’t even afford lunch, how are they supposed to own two phones??
Besides they might want to run for president one day
No internet? That animal is long extinct
What phone doesn’t have internet anymore?
Edit: Wait, I get it. So now kids have their at home phone AND their parents also pay for their “you’re at school so this is how you get us your last words in the event of a shooting” phone.
Again, genius.
Parents needing to pay MORE money they don’t have and kids have ANOTHER reminder of how their job is basically to obey AND very possibly be killed while obeying.
So much better of a solution instead of MOTHER FUCKING GUN CONTROL.
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Almost all of those have Internet. And they’re generally expensive and/or only available cartier locked.
Took the words out of my mouth.
Don’t worry as Uvdale proved it isn’t like anyone is going to save them