If I am not mistaken the tradeoff is losing add-ons but being able to install other services.

So… what is your experience? Are add-ons useful/common for your use case?

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    I’m running the docker version as I’m also using the rpi for other things, like imageview and pi hole. I don’t really miss addons, the only annoying thing is that most documentation assumes you’re running ha os.

    But if you don’t plan to use it for anything else than HA, I’d go for HA OS.

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    I run my own a VM.

    I was sceptical about running in a OS that I can’t run my normal updates and automations on but HA OS has been rock solid and easy. Plus you get a few more features

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      I second that, I just put it in a VM on my proxmox host. zero issues so far.

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    I recommend HA OS. What happened to me is that I used docker, got everything set up how I liked it, then had to move over to HA OS when I needed a specific add on and didn’t have any other solution.

    If you don’t already have a plan for other services, might not make sense to use docker, too.

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    I used a ton of AddOns, really practical because they also embed themselves easily into the rest of Home Assistant. I would go for the HA OS. But I also do wish there was a AddOn to install random docker images.

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    I’ve run both, and the OS version is much more stable and easier to keep running. Whether you use an rpi or a VM, use the dedicated OS and save yourself the heartache of trying to get your hardware working with docker.

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    Home assistant OS is also my recommendation. Add-ons are pretty important IMO. Plus for something I am planning to try and have 100% uptime and controlling my home smart devices I don’t want it containerized and at the mercy of docker.

    Currently using 15 add-ons myself.

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    HA OS is the way to go.

    You don’t want to have to think about it. HA OS just works. You set it up and let it run.

    There’s no sense in trying to kerfuffle other things into it. You don’t want to do too much on the Pi anyway because it’ll lower the responsiveness of Home Assistant slightly. If you want a server that does things, buy a separate NAS and run it alongside HA OS.

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      This is what I do with a Pi running HAOS and a Synology ds920+ running backups and everything else. It’s been rock solid, gives me a decent backup solution, my home automation is stable and responsive and no-fuss, and plenty of options for tinkering. Highly recommend.

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    home assistant in docker is definitely not for the feint of heart! the networking requirements are actually quite intense, and really don’t map well to virtual networks like dockers uses

    … among other issues

    HAOS on a pi; i’ve tried the docker thing time and time again, and the next chance i get in blowing it all away and starting on real hardware again

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    You can go supervised! You still have most of the operating system available to your needs and you can still use add-ons. I use it for years and it works like a charm

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    I’d always run HAOS. When you need Docker containers which are not available as add-ons I would look for a machine that can run Proxmox so you can run a Docker VM and a HAOS vm in parallel.

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    I think the pi isn’t a great value proposition anymore especially given the availability issues. I run HA off of proxmox installed on a nuc11 NUC11ATKC4 with a Celeron N5105, which set me back about $150 USD. It runs solid as a rock, with 2 cores and 8gb of ram, and enough left over to carve out an instance for running a local game server like Minecraft or Satisfactory when I like. You could do something like a pihole or a plex server instead, easy. Don’t let people tell you it’s hard to set up this way…there are well maintained scripts for installing and configuring proxmox and then HAOS afterwards. Took me like 15 minutes total of basically braindead pressing enter for ‘next’. The instance runtime has been completely uninterrupted except for updates for over 6 months now. I let a pi run my 3d printer but I think I’m done running any constant availability services off of one.

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    I run HA OS and from my experience updating and installing add-ons is seamless. Creating backups and restoring (had to replace a corrupt SD Card a while ago) was also no issue.
    Add-ons I have installed

    • Advanced SSH Terminal
    • ESP Home
    • Home Assistant Google Drive Backup
    • VS Code Server
    • Maria DB

    HACS for a few integrations:

    • YT Music Player
    • Waste Collection Schedule

    nothing too fancy.

    I run a second Pi with an SSD for docker containers or native OS installs (gitea, drone-ci, pi-hole, etc.)

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    I’m running Supervised in Docker. I don’t know how I managed to do it but it wasn’t hard. I use addons, and also have other things running on my Pi