• iopq@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Explain the absolute takes on the Russian war by Jeremy Corbin and Noam Chomsky. They have encouraged Ukraine to surrender, which is tacit approval of Russia’s invasion by giving Russia everything that they ever asked for

    Explain Hassan shilling for Hamas

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      6 months ago

      They have encouraged Ukraine to surrender,

      Show me where Corbyn and Chomsky has said this.

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          6 months ago

          He is just saying Ukraine can’t win

          I guess it’s just a pure coincidence that it’s now perfectly clear that Ukraine can’t win, eh?

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            6 months ago

            Ukraine actually can’t lose as long as it has the support of the free world

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          6 months ago

          Here’s what I typed…

          Show me where Corbyn and Chomsky has said this.

          Did you misunderstand, perhaps? Here’s what I absolutely did not say…

          Show me where Corbyn and Chomsky talked about the practical options Ukraine faces so that you can interpret this as “surrender.”

          Is any of this getting through to you?

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          6 months ago

          Neither of those say what you say they said…

          Corbin says he encourages “peace” efforts rather than war efforts, which you know duh everybody does.

          Chompsky is similar, why or rather now are you twisting either of those in your head to mean something else?

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            6 months ago

            What the actual fuck? War efforts are what’s needed. Because you know, people are dying because of Russian bombs. It’s shooting back that saves lives. Defending their viewpoints is basically tacit approval of wars of aggression.

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              6 months ago

              Notice I didn’t take a stance I simply stated that what you said that article contained is not in fact the truth.

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                5 months ago

                People who advocate for peace with Russia are in fact advocating for Ukrainian surrender. That’s because Russia’s condition IS surrender. If they had more modest goals, that would be one thing

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                  5 months ago

                  Again notice how I didn’t take a stance I just said you’re a liar. Address having zero credibility at this point first and go from there.

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                    5 months ago

                    You did take a stance, but you’re trying to hide it to appear to be neutral. Which you’re not, because you can’t see that they are actually supporting Russia by saying Ukraine has the choice to surrender