WYSK: There funded by dark money PACS, but some good reporting has brought out these names: David Koch, Peter Thiel, Reid Hoffman, Mark Cuban, Harlan Crow, and Michael Bloomberg. Some of there members are most famous for stopping big bills. Joe Leiberman, for example, single handedly stopped the single payer portion of the ACA. Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsen Simena kept the John Lewis voting rights act from passing, and famously kept the senate from repealing the filibuster.
Hey, here’s the funny thing about the internet: No one is obligated to engage in questions posed in bad faith.
Here’s what the climate bill contains for anyone actually interested:
https://youtu.be/qw5zzrOpo2s
It wasn’t asked in bad faith. If you knew the answer beforehand I would have happily conceded you do in fact care about having concentration camps. Not knowing is absolutely a sign of being checked out, which is half the issue here, none of you actually do anything except vote. You see politics as something you do once every few years and as a spectator sport the rest of the time. You have no concept of electoral vs non-electoral politics, you literally do not take part politically except as entertainment consumption outside of voting. You all have this embarrassing mindset:
I know the question is in bad faith because these are not concentration camps:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/07/biden-migrant-families-detention
The definition of a concentration camp is: “a place in which large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities”.
They are concentration camps. Calling them “migrant detention facilities” does not change their function. It also does not change the fact that the US has been forcefully sterilising women in them either.
“If families were detained, they would be held for short periods of time, perhaps just a few days, and their cases expedited through immigration court”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/07/biden-migrant-families-detention
Not concentration camps. You don’t get to leave a concentration camp after having your day in court. Are detention centers ideal? No. But neither is leaving people in the desert without food, water, or shelter, (or worse, leaving them prey to local vigilantes).
Yes, the Trump administration was keeping people in horrific conditions, forcibly sterilizing women, and separating children from their parents without cause and without tracking. If you have some specific evidence that those abuses continue to this day under the Biden administration, please feel free to share.
55 days is the average amount of time people spend there. This is not a “small amount of time”.
Stop replying to me. I don’t want to hear this apologism for literal concentration camps anymore. Get a grip. You’re defending the fact that one third of these people are literal children getting locked up for 2 months at a time as if that’s normal, fine and good. If you were a German in Nazi germany you would have defended your government every single step of the way.
If you want to learn about the abuses LOOK IT UP, it is nobody’s responsibility to educate you. You know how to use google.
Now stop responding to me with concentration camp denial.
“If families were detained, they would be held for short periods of time, perhaps just a few days, and their cases expedited through immigration court”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/07/biden-migrant-families-detention
Not concentration camps. You don’t get to leave a concentration camp after having your day in court. Are detention centers ideal? No. But neither is leaving people in the desert without food, water, or shelter, (or worse, leaving them prey to local vigilantes).
Yes, the Trump administration was keeping people in horrific conditions, forcibly sterilizing women, and separating children from their parents without cause and without tracking. If you have some specific evidence that those abuses continue to this day under the Biden administration, please feel free to share.