Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).
It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.
My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you’re not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.
I’ve linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325
Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.
https://lemmy.world/post/747912
https://lemmy.world/post/577526
Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.
Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.
TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.
EDIT: To clarify, this isn’t the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.
EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.
In your circle maybe the current trans narrative is an accepted norm. On a global scale, there are far more places it would be completely and utterly unacceptable in any way than those that embrace it.
When you start trying to shape the online world in your own image, according to your own beliefs by excluding people from the discourse, you are being just as exclusionary as the anti-trans brigade.
Who died and made you the arbitrator of acceptable speech? Why are you so sensitive to coexisting with those that hold different beliefs? Is this a uniquely American experience, and why your Dems and Republicans can’t manage to be civil to each other any longer?
You seem to believe you can control other people’s thoughts. You can’t. Banning people just results in 2 seperate echo chambers and an amplification of both perspectives to the extreme. It’s dumb. Just accept that there are going to be people in any shared space that you do not like.
Yes, the total opposites of “Let them lead their lives how they choose” and “They aren’t living how we say they should, we should drive them out or kill them.”
Nice try at making an argument, but you’re terrible at this.
Take your own advice.
I live my truth. I already don’t like you at all, and I’d wager I’d hate almost everything that you stand for if we ever met.
The difference is I would never advocate to ban or block your uncanny ability to jump straight to personal attacks when you don’t like what’s been said.
Haha oh and your a sell proclaimed master of political reddit babbling, slap that on your resume. As well, you were just putting words in his mouth and simplifying a complex argument to the boogy man narrative in your head so I wouldnt quit your day job just yet.
Hahahahaha, you really misquoted me and changed you’re to your. When my comment is right there, for anyone to see. 😉 👍
Copy and paste is your friend. Proofreading, too.
This isn’t about thoughts, but actions.
Sure, like there are social rules in any shared space that you just have to accept if you want to share that space.
It’s one thing to express a different opinion, it’s a whole other beast to call for violence or express hatred.
This is inaccurate.
Trans people are MORE accepted in both the middle east and asia than they are in the west and this is caused by collectivist vs individualist culture differences.
Gay rights has been largely accepted in the west while transphobia is still incredibly high. Whereas in the middle east and asia it is the opposite, gay rights are completely not acceptable while trans people are significantly more accepted and have been a normalised feature of their cultural and artistic works for a very long time.
Case in point, even the Iranian state will pay for your transition surgery. But being gay will get you killed.
Excellent video that dives into this topic more here, it is focused on Japan’s game industry but touches on the middle east also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRrVkZoN93c
Offtopic: Are you actually from the isle of man or just a fan of the flag? I was there 2 weeks ago.