- cross-posted to:
- prepperintel@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- prepperintel@lemmy.world
In short we’ve learned nothing, done nothing, and will be caught flat again. If you’re not ready, get ready, because no one is coming to save you.
In short we’ve learned nothing, done nothing, and will be caught flat again. If you’re not ready, get ready, because no one is coming to save you.
If an 18th century army ever tries to invade the country again, the US is well prepared thanks to the second amendment.
Nah, the army would win. We have a bunch of individuals with firearms that practice using them on the range or maybe hunting. That’s a far cry from opposing an actual military. Sure the tech outpaces the army’s but most people are just going to hide in their houses. The rest will be seen coming and when martial law is enacted and they go house to house seizing guns, it’ll be over. It’s not like they can’t learn how to use modern weaponry. Most people vastly underestimate discipline and organization.
This assumes there is no modern military for this premise.
For the first few battles.
After that the survivors will figure out how to fight an insurgency
Lol-snort - could you imagine such an army vs. literally one person, like even a 400-lb couch surfer with bad aim or perhaps a literal 6-year-old child, but with a single semi- or full-auto and an extra box of ammo? Especially with a scope attachment, the opposing army could be like “okay we attack tomorrow at dawn” and the person ends the threat while they are still in the camp drinking coffee.
Or as we see happening in Ukraine, a handful of drones could do it from the air, and it would take them awhile to figure out where the threat was even coming from.
Human beings are hopelessly ineffective against the might of such military machines. Just like the school-children of today, who being young & inexperienced, look to their leaders to take proper care of them:-(.
That’s like a right wing doomsday prepper fantasy. Them and their arsenal against a mob of whoever trying to take their stuff.
But they always stop before the end where they get killed anyway. Only so many bullets and starving people with nothing to lose aren’t giving up.
I laughed because you are right, but you’re heavily discounting the fact that most people would cowtow immediately if they thought they could get the slightest bit of protection.
I mean, the sales pitch works to get them to buy the guns. After that point whatever they do with them is no longer the salesperson’s concern… :-P
The same goes with prepper gear - like, what amount of food & water is going to help you survive a nuclear winter? Especially in comparison to paying taxes to a government that will formulate economic strategies that lead towards nations never using such weapons in the first place, b/c their wealthiest business-people stand too much to lose.
I can barely imagine the mindset of a prepper who readies themselves for all manner of attacks against them… but then refuses to take a vaccine? Or wear a mask, or simply stand 6 feet apart and/or reduce going out especially during peak times, and also works to prevent others from having access to those vaccines or wearing masks of their own volition.
Some people are more vulnerable to different types of “attacks”, disinformation being one of the most effective that has ever existed.:-(
wolverines!
Only two survived the event (1984) version. Man, that film didn’t age well. The Chinese were our allies, Nicaragua and Cuba I think were part of the attackers. Russia is still an enemy, though.
A single guy or small unit with hand-held weapons would be obliterated by artillery as soon as the army figured out which general area the shots are coming from.
18th century artillery? I suppose it also depends on whether we were talking a squad, platoon, etc., whether the single person has to defend a particular area like their home with family inside, whether this whole army was in one place, whether the army intentionally traveled through time vs. simply were teleported there against their will (in which case they likely could be convinced to surrender, especially upon seeing a helicopter - and like, wherever they came from were they a defensively minded unit, like would their morale be crushed to realize that neither victory nor defeat would ever allow them to see their loved ones again - plus these defenders could literally be their own family members as in descendants), etc.
But without going into such details, my point was they technology has advanced quite a bit since the 18th century, which would give someone with a modern gun a decided advantage for them to make use of.
Cannons have been around since the 12th century.
I thought they were extremely imprecise, especially vs. a singular target - devastating vs. an entire army, but not an individual.
But they’re also great at destroying buildings and shit, between these and some trebuchets and stuff they could really do a number on an area then move in with the troops, they also had no issues just throwing bodies at the problem. Anyway I was just pointing out the technicality around the term artillery.
First off, if that dude stayed still, just take cover.
Secondly, they had CANNONS in the 1800s. Do you know the effective range of a modern semiautomatic rifle? Effective ranges would be around 300 meters.
Some “couch surfer” who can barely hold a rifle wouldn’t hit shit over 150m.
And again, if they just sat in the same spot, even muskets could take him down.
Goddamn American fantasies. Get better fantasies.