• HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    If the Dems keep winning the Republicans will have to slide left. It happened in the UK with Labour (unfortunately in the opposite direction).

    When that happens, and Trump is not literally attempting to end democracy using project 2025, the plan of strong-arming the dem candidate into being more left is plenty feasible, and the risks are less dire.

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      5 months ago

      It happened in the UK with Labour (unfortunately in the opposite direction)

      This happened after Labour’s entrenched power groups vigorously sabotaged Corbyn. Corbyn committed a somewhat serious blunder during Brexit, but he still had Labour well in the direction of defeating the Tories, and that might have happened earlier if his most spiteful opponents hadn’t been inside his own party.

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      5 months ago

      Ah yes, that time several years ago when the dems won last election, the republicans responded by “sliding left”. When the dems win 2024 the republicans will also be very civilized and non violent and slide even further left. Non-whites and LGBT people everywhere in America will be safer the night Joe Biden is elected than before, you heard it here from HauntedCupcake first!

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        5 months ago

        You mostly don’t see it because they win inconsistently by a narrow margin. It would totally happen if the republicans weren’t so popular and the Dems kept winning. Hence the hypothetical.

        The main issue is convincing the populace, but my point is more that the US has a way out of fascism, the public just need to recognise and want it

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      5 months ago

      Thats not going to happen. The small handful of swing states will dictate a pattern of both parties steadily and we’ll just keep going lower. Im sorry but there’s zero chance the US doesn’t elect enough republicans for them to be forced to change policy. They’re making gains.

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        5 months ago

        Maybe I’m just risk averse, but handing your country over to a fascist dictator sounds like the wrong solution.

        I’m not saying to stop pressuring Biden in other ways, just not the borderline suicidal ones

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          5 months ago

          Way too much sense. We’re gonna have to drown this out with a gallon of troll farm.