- cross-posted to:
- lemmy_support
- cross-posted to:
- lemmy_support
As far as I see that instance is a far-right cess pool. Everything I’ve got from that instance were low-quality transphobic “news articles”.
As far as I see that instance is a far-right cess pool. Everything I’ve got from that instance were low-quality transphobic “news articles”.
Just dont subscribe to their communities then.
Why does everybody want to defederate everything, the whole point of lemmy is federation.
Tolerance of Intolerance
Back in the 1940s, the philosopher Karl Popper came up with something called “The Paradox of Tolerance.” It goes like this:
If everyone is tolerant of every idea, then intolerant ideas will emerge. Tolerant people will tolerate this intolerance, and the intolerant people will not tolerate the tolerant people. Eventually, the intolerant people will take over and create a society of intolerance. Therefore, Popper said, to maintain a society of tolerance, the tolerant must be intolerant of intolerance… hence the paradox.
Yeah thats a good thought experiment and worth thinking about.
However this is the internet. And like the internet, lemmy is hosted by many people with many different views, and used by an even broader range of people. Tons of things get people branded as intolerant. If everybody accused of being intolerant was shunned we’d be left with only the most homogenous, boring, milquetoast echo chamber.
“I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it”
I wouldn’t call it a thought experiment. It’s how the world works. Don’t be nice to nazis or a*holes or they’ll use you.
I’m not sure if what some people call tolerace or intolerance is actually correct. Diversity is a good thing. Also diversity of oppinions. But you can’t manipulate people or lie to them with false facts. If you think about it, you can find out what’s right and wrong. But keep in mind, there is a rightful place for a anarcho leftist community and also for a safe space that i can share with my 12 year old niece or mom. Just respect people and be tolerant, but also be realistic and don’t let a few a*holes ruin everything for everyone.
When you’re federating with 90%+ of communities, are you really defederating everything? I mean, these people are Nazis. It’s not like they’re some benign group
The main problem is that things show up in the “All” view even if you are not subscribed to them. And some instances are really so toxic, that blocking their individual communities isn’t practical anymore.
Then a better solution would be a user-side instance block, similar how to on lemmy users can block communities. Defederation is the wrong direction for the site to take.
I generally agree that defederation is bad, but with instances that are really **and only ** a cesspit, it should be ok.