• Krono@lemmy.today
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    7 months ago

    I’m not asking for “it all”, I don’t expect it to be perfect. I’m just pointing out the glaring contrast- China successfully built high speed rail, and the US has failed (so far)

    I dont like the progress we have made because I believe in the promise of America. America can do so much better. We should be building rail just as fast as China, but instead we are building at 1% of their pace and people like you call it “progress”.

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      7 months ago

      I agree with everything you said here except America having promise. America doesn’t have promise, it’s been holding the world back for a long time now, and bullying all the other nations. It would be best for it to crash and burn like all the other nations it made crash and burn.

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          7 months ago

          Can you actually say I am wrong? America is known for modeling in foreign affairs, sponsoring coups and starting civil wars, and just straight up invading places. You’re even worse than China, and China has a bad track record.

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            7 months ago

            America Literally every powerful nation is known for modeling in foreign affairs, sponsoring coups and starting civil wars, and just straight up invading places.

            Many of those other nations are much worse than the US.

            America has been holding the world back in the sense of separating combatants in fist fights. We have been global peacekeepers for almost a century now and it’s been an incredibly good thing for the human race. Not to mention our technological advancements. The rise of the USA has been a good thing for humanity, though it does have its downsides.

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              7 months ago

              The first part is sort of true, but nobody does it more aggressively than America and Russia.

              You aren’t even close to peacekeepers. You are literally sponsoring genocide in Palestine. You started a whole war in Vietnam and then lost. Stop pretending to be the good guys.

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          7 months ago

          I think the fact I am English has as much bearing on this opinion as being left-adjacent. My country helped form the United States, and many of us (not just leftists) are disturbed at what has happened since we were kicked out. I mean it’s a common stereotype here that Americans are dumb, fat, and racist.

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            7 months ago

            Funny how this comment is being made by the same guy that accused me of being a mutt because he doesn’t think I’m as Irish as he supposedly is? Now he says he’s English. Hey, mutt, where is your dna test to prove you’re so much better than everyone, especially Americans?

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                7 months ago

                You called me an “Amerimutt” even though I stated that I am Irish by blood and have lived in Ireland. To me, that implied you were calling me a mutt compared to people in Ireland. Shame on you.

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              7 months ago

              I was actually born in England though. I live in England. I have an English passport. That’s what it means to be English. Being born in America with an American passport makes you, wait for it, American.

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                7 months ago

                I never told you where I was born. Let’s hope you were born where you think you were born. Some people were born in other countries and carried to another country, as infants. No matter how you label a person, you can’t change their dna and the culture that has transcended through generations of a family.

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                  7 months ago

                  Also if what you say is true then according to our respective ancestry I should be pressing my boot on your neck, while eating a crumpet with butter. Would you like me to do that?

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                    7 months ago

                    I am also part British and Welsh. I happen to be related to British royalty. I think you should consider your mutt comment and look in the mirror. You don’t have the blood type to be calling me a mutt, or anything along the lines of a dog.

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                  7 months ago

                  I am pretty sure being born in another country, experiencing that countries education system, festivals, religions, social gatherings, material conditions, and so on counts as changing culture. This is especially true if those ancestors you guys love talking about moved over 2 or 3 or even 4 generations ago.

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                    7 months ago

                    I’m sending this message to both of you. Please move this argument to DMs, or the mods here will give you a 3-day vacation from this community.

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            7 months ago

            Pot meet kettle rofl

            You fuckers are just as bad as us, you’re just more polite about it

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              7 months ago

              Yeah the fact we are now only moderately better than the USA is disturbing. Hey at least we don’t have fascists and right wing nut jobs trying to take over the government. Likewise you don’t go broke from getting ill, even if the care isn’t as good as it used to be.

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                7 months ago

                Hey at least we don’t have fascists and right wing nut jobs trying to take over the government.

                Got bad news for you bruv

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                  7 months ago

                  We weren’t the ones having people invading the capital. When have we had fascists trying to take over?