• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Except he claimed Tesla had the technology working NOW in 2019. Which is a factually false statement not about beliefs.

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      And that would is probably one of the indicators of why lawsuit is allowed to proceed and might be won in the end.

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      Yeah. He explicitly stated that the only thing stopping them flipping the switch were those damn pesky road laws

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        Which I’m sure was true. It would certainly be a lot faster to debug FSD after a number of deaths for each bug.

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      Forget Tesla dude! Trust me I’m from the year 2024. In just a few months your world will change drastically and everyone will start getting 😷 sick and wearing a mask. We called it COVID 19 and it was bad. Real bad. The only way to fight this pandemic was to isolate as much as possible until a vaccine was made available. The markets never crashed like Trump suggested… almost as if he knew something was happening…you must invest all your money on moderna and Pfizer vaccine related stocks. Anyway, that’s all I remember. Paxlovid was okay but not a vaccine. Wow, Lemmy let’s you time travel! We need to invest into this technology!

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      depends how you define “working” i suppose.

      can a tesla drive its full range automomously? probably…

      should it? probably not

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        Musk defined it himself, as the car being able to drive autonomously from a parking lot across the country to pick you up in another parking lot.

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            6 months ago

            In theory is not the same as actually being able to do it, which was what he clearly claimed saying: And we can do that NOW.

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              Its only not possible on consumer models because of restrictions put in place by tesla.

              As evidenced by Elon mode

              A tesla can drive its self, but it doesnt because of regulatory/safety/liability reasons

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                No it was not, we have testimony from employees that FSD wasn’t even close to what Musk claimed. And it can’t even do it today.
                Just because you can flip a switch that says FSD doesn’t mean it works.

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                  Again, we’re arguing about the definition of “working” which was my original point.

                  Can it self drive? yes

                  Should it? no

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                    That argument is stupid. My robot lawn mower “can drive itself” but it can’t follow traffic rules and would crash after a while if set to drive on its own in a road. Just as a Tesla. What Musk was implying was “it can drive itself without violating traffic rules and causing crashes” and clearly it can’t.

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                    Can it self drive? yes No

                    That’s like saying a car with cruise control can self drive. Although FSD is more sophisticated, it still can’t.
                    The Tesla cannot self drive by any reasonable meaning of the term.
                    Tesla also calls it assisted self driving now. And that’s obviously not because it works now, which even now 8 years later it doesn’t.