- No server operator needs to federate with you.
- No server operator needs to tolerate things they don’t want on their instance.
- No user of an instance needs to personally curate their own extensive never ending blocklist of users and channels they don’t want to see.
Quit your pseudo-intellectual whining and choose what instance(s) work for you. If you think regularly interacting with shit content somehow helps you stay out of an echo chamber then go ahead and make a second account on those garbage instances full of hateful people. Then you can read both the decent servers and the trash ones and be the fedora wearing ackshually right fair and balanced uber nerd you always wanted to be.
Edit: The huge number of upvotes on this post compared to the low numbers on the whiney imposers’ posts is proof of exactly where this community places its priorities.
What in the everloving hell is this awful take. No, curation is not free speech. Nor does it need to be.
Content moderation absolutely is a form of free speech. They get to decide who to associate with and what ideals to rebroadcast with their own equipment. They aren’t government entities and do reserve the right to express their individual beliefs. If you have a problem with that, find a better-suited instance for your own personal beliefs, or host your own.
If you want further reading on the subject, here’s a well-written post that explains the positive relationship between more active content moderation and “freer” speech.
Amazing.
“I’m censoring people so that I can promote free speech!”
Just admit that it’s not free speech. That’s just a roundabout way to justify your decision when there’s no justification required.
Free expression, then, of which free speech is one kind. Curating content on a privately owned platform based on rules arrived at by the owner (here, the vote of accounts or registered sh.it.heads, but wasn’t the only necessary choice) is a form of free expression. Nobody should force
You need to think about the bigger meatspace involved here - the internet != the world. Someone of their own volition set up a VM to host a Lemmy server, invited people here, and set up some rules for how participating using their resources works. TheDude actually opted for the riskier path by opening it up to voting. All of this was done freely, with no coercion about how TheDude could go about his business.
You, too, have the same right to free expression. You can set up an instance and decide how you want to do things. You can gather a likeminded group of people to fill in any skill gaps. You can figure out ways to support the cost. You can allow as much user freedom with your resources as you are comfortable with.
Or, you can removed about it. This too is free expression, and I mean this sincerely.
I think you have issues with reading comprehension. I haven’t removeded anywhere about any defederation, moderation, censorship or whatever done by instance owners.
Obviously, it’s up to them and can lead to better content. It can also lead to echo chambers, but that’s an implementation detail.
All I did was point out that censorship is not free speech. Free speech is an ideal that doesn’t work in the real world, and it’s fine to admit you’re not open to everyone having free speech.
I apologize - this was more of a general statement. “You’re free to build, or you’re free to complain, both are valid”. *Edit: And taking the recent hub-bub as a case in point re: the Fediverse stuff. Bleh, been a bit too meta recently.
My issue was with curation not being free expression. This only holds for me if there are absolutely no other alternatives to express your ideas.
If I own a wall and allow people to post signs on it, I can choose to remove whatever signs I deem inappropriate. The creator can put their signs up somewhere else and I’m under no obligation to use my property to broadcast their message if I choose not to.
Nothing stops you from using your own resources to broadcast your message. Be the change you want to see in the world.
Last time I read this it was musk on Twitter, days before censoring electoral messages in Turkey
cool story bro, why do you think it’s relevant?
So you’re saying I shouldn’t be able to choose who to allow onto my server?
Not sure how you got to that answer. Censorship isn’t free speech.
No one has to support free speech. Just own it instead of making up rubbish like “I’m actually censoring to promote free speech”
Would you consider it acceptable for an instance owner to ban advertisements?
An instance owner can do whatever they want for their own instance.
Calling censorship free speech to make yourself feel better doesn’t make it true though.