This is why, as a straight dude, I wholeheartedly support everyone in the LGBTQ+ community. They’re people, just like everyone else, and I’m sure there’s some that are just terrible people, but on the whole, they’re just folks trying to find their happiness just like everyone else.
I consider myself an ally, and I’ll use any power I have to promote equality for everyone; whether that entails voting against people who would take their rights away, or try to silence them or whatever, speaking out against tyranny or judgemental asshats… It doesn’t matter.
IMO, we are people first. Your choice in name, pronouns, gender identity, sexual orientation, etc, are all secondary to the fact that you are a human person deserving of all the same rights and privileges afforded to everyone else.
My favorite (tongue in cheek) comment, specifically about (gay) marriage is that LGBTQ+ people should have the right to be just as unhappy as the rest of us, in marriage.
My favorite (tongue in cheek) comment, specifically about (gay) marriage is that LGBTQ+ people should have the right to be just as unhappy as the rest of us, in marriage.
While not so bad now that they’re legally allowed to marry, this joke was kinda cringey before then. “Sure you don’t have the right to marry who you love like most people do, but ‘wife bad’, amiright??”
Thanks for replying to this. I’m not in Lemmy nearly as much as I would like.
I just want to note that the comment you replied to is wrong. Call it a quirk of my personality, but I like to ask the opposite of what’s expected. The example I gave in another reply was walking in to a room where people are watching sports, instead of asking “who is winning?” As most would, I instead ask “who is losing?”. The information is the same either way, provided you know who is playing, stating the loser implies who the winner is.
I don’t mean to imply all marriages are unhappy, I just simply flipped the script, so to speak, and instead of saying they have the same right to a happy marriage, I say the opposite, not because I think they’re doomed to be unhappy in marriage, but because people usually expect an implication of everyone being happy in marriage.
I think the reason I do this is because it makes people think about their response more than if they’re asked what people expect them to ask. But IDK, I’m no psychiatrist.
Either way, I appreciate your comments here, and I wanted to leave you a note to say so, and provide a bit of information. I hope you have a great day.
While there definitely is a trope about “wife bad”, and it’s fairly common, people complaining about their spouse is nothing new. Men were able to insert it into pop culture far more frequently in the boomer days before there was even a facade of equality (both for gender and for race).
Now at least, there’s a facade of equality if not genuine equality and as others have indicated, a lot of the spouse demeaning comedy has fallen out of favour.
So from the etymology of the trend, it could only be “wife bad” boomer humor to achieve the meme-like status that it has, when equality became a more important issue, those jokes fell out of favour.
To be perfectly clear, my statements are largely genderless, and that is very much on purpose. Since a husband may not have a wife, and a wife may not have a husband. Equally a spouse may not have a husband or wife.
I have done a lot to ensure that the language I use isn’t gendered because there are people who don’t identify as a gender or don’t identify as a single gender. To which, my comments are largely taking about people, not men and women, so genderless terms are more correct to what I mean by my comments.
Yes, it’s a little cringe to imply that all marriages are unhappy marriages. I tell this joke because it falls in the arena known as “dad” jokes, which I personally enjoy. Additionally, it subverts expectations by implying the negative of what would be normally expected, which is the bread and butter of my preferred humor.
This is emphasized by the fact of who I am and how my personality works. I like to give people something unexpected; I’ll give you one easy example of not being funny but also not doing what’s normally expected. If I walk into a room where a group of people are watching a sports game, I’ll ask “who is losing?” Since most people would ask “who is winning?”. It’s weird, I’m weird, and I’m okay with that.
Do with that information as you will. The fact is I like going with the opposite of whatever most people would expect when it has no bearing on the information, it only inverts it. So rather than saying “the same right to be happily married as everyone else” I simply went for the opposite as I do with everything else. It’s a quirk of my personality.
It seems to be far more common, in my experience. Do you have any examples of “husband bad”? Not just complaining about them, mind, but implying that marriage itself is a bad thing?
wholeheartedly support everyone in the LGBTQ+ community.
what about the lone gay? the pan-sexiled? the lesbianned from all nearby coffee-shops?
Why do you only support the gays with social capital sufficient to be part of the communitiy?
This is why, as a straight dude, I wholeheartedly support everyone in the LGBTQ+ community. They’re people, just like everyone else, and I’m sure there’s some that are just terrible people, but on the whole, they’re just folks trying to find their happiness just like everyone else.
I consider myself an ally, and I’ll use any power I have to promote equality for everyone; whether that entails voting against people who would take their rights away, or try to silence them or whatever, speaking out against tyranny or judgemental asshats… It doesn’t matter.
IMO, we are people first. Your choice in name, pronouns, gender identity, sexual orientation, etc, are all secondary to the fact that you are a human person deserving of all the same rights and privileges afforded to everyone else.
My favorite (tongue in cheek) comment, specifically about (gay) marriage is that LGBTQ+ people should have the right to be just as unhappy as the rest of us, in marriage.
“This is why” you say of a fake greentext.
While not so bad now that they’re legally allowed to marry, this joke was kinda cringey before then. “Sure you don’t have the right to marry who you love like most people do, but ‘wife bad’, amiright??”
I think the joke is ‘spouse bad’
Youre the one who put a gender on it
I can’t say for sure, but I suspect that it’s mostly hetero males who make this joke. Just like the many “wife bad” boomer comics.
It’s was only hetero males getting married in the past… The fuck you on about? Are you just trying to find something to be offended by?
Thanks for replying to this. I’m not in Lemmy nearly as much as I would like.
I just want to note that the comment you replied to is wrong. Call it a quirk of my personality, but I like to ask the opposite of what’s expected. The example I gave in another reply was walking in to a room where people are watching sports, instead of asking “who is winning?” As most would, I instead ask “who is losing?”. The information is the same either way, provided you know who is playing, stating the loser implies who the winner is.
I don’t mean to imply all marriages are unhappy, I just simply flipped the script, so to speak, and instead of saying they have the same right to a happy marriage, I say the opposite, not because I think they’re doomed to be unhappy in marriage, but because people usually expect an implication of everyone being happy in marriage.
I think the reason I do this is because it makes people think about their response more than if they’re asked what people expect them to ask. But IDK, I’m no psychiatrist.
Either way, I appreciate your comments here, and I wanted to leave you a note to say so, and provide a bit of information. I hope you have a great day.
Funny, I could have sworn that hetero females got married, too…not to mention bi males and females.
You must be fun at parties.
I think this is the most appropriate time for a “no u” that I’ve ever had.
While there definitely is a trope about “wife bad”, and it’s fairly common, people complaining about their spouse is nothing new. Men were able to insert it into pop culture far more frequently in the boomer days before there was even a facade of equality (both for gender and for race).
Now at least, there’s a facade of equality if not genuine equality and as others have indicated, a lot of the spouse demeaning comedy has fallen out of favour.
So from the etymology of the trend, it could only be “wife bad” boomer humor to achieve the meme-like status that it has, when equality became a more important issue, those jokes fell out of favour.
To be perfectly clear, my statements are largely genderless, and that is very much on purpose. Since a husband may not have a wife, and a wife may not have a husband. Equally a spouse may not have a husband or wife.
I have done a lot to ensure that the language I use isn’t gendered because there are people who don’t identify as a gender or don’t identify as a single gender. To which, my comments are largely taking about people, not men and women, so genderless terms are more correct to what I mean by my comments.
Yes, it’s a little cringe to imply that all marriages are unhappy marriages. I tell this joke because it falls in the arena known as “dad” jokes, which I personally enjoy. Additionally, it subverts expectations by implying the negative of what would be normally expected, which is the bread and butter of my preferred humor.
This is emphasized by the fact of who I am and how my personality works. I like to give people something unexpected; I’ll give you one easy example of not being funny but also not doing what’s normally expected. If I walk into a room where a group of people are watching a sports game, I’ll ask “who is losing?” Since most people would ask “who is winning?”. It’s weird, I’m weird, and I’m okay with that.
Do with that information as you will. The fact is I like going with the opposite of whatever most people would expect when it has no bearing on the information, it only inverts it. So rather than saying “the same right to be happily married as everyone else” I simply went for the opposite as I do with everything else. It’s a quirk of my personality.
Right cause only men complain about their spouses as a punchline.
It seems to be far more common, in my experience. Do you have any examples of “husband bad”? Not just complaining about them, mind, but implying that marriage itself is a bad thing?
90% of the content on Reddit’s XXchromosome is women shitting on their husbands or boyfriends, and it’s a big subreddit.
what about the lone gay? the pan-sexiled? the lesbianned from all nearby coffee-shops? Why do you only support the gays with social capital sufficient to be part of the communitiy?
Yeah thanks for that incoherent comment. You really contributed to the discussion there, well done.
Do they think the LGBTQ+ community is the kind of community you gotta pay like a yearly fee to be in? Lol
What are you on about? From my understanding all the people you mentioned ARE considered part of that description
Nail on the head my friend. That’s exactly why I used that identifier. Not sure what the other person is trying to say here.
I THINK THEY’RE HAVING A LITTLE JOKE WITH YOU
I DON’T THINK ANYONE IS FINDING IT VERY FUNNY.