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    Doesn’t really seem like the folks holding signs and protesting are being arrested. The people who have set up encampments and are trespassing are being arrested, but they’re clearly and obviously breaking the law. Peaceful protest is protected, vandalism, and attacking students or blocking them from accessing the buildings they’re paying tuition to use isn’t peaceful protest. There’s a hell of a lot of video showing that quite a number of these are not peaceful or protests. Signs calling for intifada are not peaceful.

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        If you’re trying to equate or conflate the plight of the founding fathers with the plight of a peoples who hold near absolute domination over the entire region with 22 ethnostates, then you need to go back to history class.

        This isn’t a fight for freedom in any way, shape or form. It’s a fight to eliminate the only state that isn’t Muslim in the region.

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            I’m assuming you’ve gone far out of your way to avoid the video that was released on Saturday showing Hamas using un vehicles.

            I’m pretty safe in batting that you’ve also managed to avoid the fact that Hamas was having their power provided by a un agency as well.

            Those are both incontrovertible facts with clear video evidence. I’ll let you come to a conclusion on whether or not the UN is Hamas or not, but they are certainly making it very difficult to differentiate themselves.

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      It’s also a good thing that Pro-Israeli counter protestors would never do anything like that themselves. Right?

      RIGHT?

      Oh… oh hang on.

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        That’s to find out part after fucking around LOL.

        You’re not going to lock people out of campus. Take away the right to access the facilities they’ve paid for and not expect pushback. Super easy way to avoid. This is to not set up illegal encampments in the first place.

        Yet again here we have people crying victim over the consequences of their actions. Completely typical among the Anti Jew crowd.

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          Yet again here we have people crying victim over the consequences of their actions. Completely typical among the Anti Jew crowd.

          Not like you though, right?

          Completely typical of the Zionist crowd. Gotta play the victim as they murder thousands.

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            It’s not murder. It’s a war. What happened on October 7th? On the other hand, was murder. The retribution for starting the war is a war in return. The consequences of starting a war are typically identified by a body count. Don’t want none. Don’t start none.

            That you failed to understand this, is your failure and demonstrates a serious bias and lack of understanding.

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                Yeah that’s great. Israel has clearly established that they are not targeting women and children. They’ve dropped leaflets. They’ve made phone calls. They’ve even put idf soldiers at risk having to escort people away from Hamas snipers who are targeting people trying to leave.

                Your anger is directed at the wrong people. It needs to be directed at Hamas openly uses human Shields, operates out of civilian quarters and uses what should be protected. Facilities like hospitals and schools to launch attacks from. If you’re going to sit there and say that Israel should not respond to being attacked because they’re being attacked from a hospital then I have no problem calling you in a bigot because what you’re saying in reality is that the Jews need to accept being rocketed and killed. That’s just an absurd position to take, but we’re seeing a lot of absurd people and positions related to this conflict. Like the people trying to claim that anti-zionism is an anti-Semitism. Nothing more absurd than that.

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                  Israel has clearly established that they are not targeting women and children.

                  Are you nuts? There are 8000 identified children dead. So either the IDF is targeting civilians or their targeting is war-criminal level bad.

                  what you’re saying in reality is that the Jews need to accept being rocketed and killed

                  No, they don’t have to accept it. They should elect governments that don’t support apartheid and commit genocide, thus perpetuating the cycle of violence.

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                    You’re just intentionally ignoring that Hamas uses women and children as human Shields? You’re going to overlook the video that shows children running to the rooftops encircling a guy holding a gun?

                    West point Military academy has published papers showing the links that Israel is gone to prevent civilian death in the face of the civilians being used as human Shields. Their civilian to combatant ratio is better than anything that has been seen in this style of war ever. That you’re ignorantly claiming that it’s out of line demonstrates that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

                    That you’re saying that all Israel needs to do is elect a peace-loving government also demonstrates your ignorance. Considering over the past 80 years, Israel has spent about 70 of them making peace deals that have been rejected by the Palestinians. Even before Israel was granted statehood, they were making offers to create a peaceful Nation. Go read their founding Charter. It clearly states that they want to work and to integrate with peace wanting Arabs. After a couple of generations of watching their homes, businesses and buses blown up, they took the gloves off and fought back. It’s about time the Palestinians elected someone that wasn’t a terrorist organization… Because that’s the only way this ends, whether peaceful or by extreme violence Hamas is gone. They won’t choose the peaceful option cuz they care more about raking billions of dollars in and staying in power than they do about Palestinian people…

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      Do you know how Israel protested the British empire to get their attention and Palestine’s land after WWI?

      They created a terrorist group to target and murder high ranking officials.

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      The cops literally did more damage than the protestors, you can go ahead and drop that propaganda line from your repetoire. We all saw it live, there’s no one around to believe those particular lies.

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        That’s just bullshit dude. You’re telling me you haven’t seen the destruction in the libraries and on the campuses? Those were even published in the guardian.

        That you’re attempting to gaslight this one and say that the sky isn’t blue isn’t going to fly. There’s just far too much out there proving that many, many of these campus takeovers where anything but peaceful protests.

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        These people don’t even know why they’re angry and they’re clearly being led around by people with an agenda they’re not aware of. We see this with the intifada guidebook being distributed, this was never a peaceful protest.

        The claims of children being half of the dead being a good example of ignorance being amplified. Even the UN fell for it, they’ve admitted their mistakes - I won’t hold my breath for the protesters to do the same.