• Custodian1623@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    If we’re considering foreign policy, a Trump victory means not only continued destruction in Gaza but potentially an additional genocide in Ukraine. Domestically he has demonstrated that he’s unwilling to accept a loss and will stoop to transporting fake elector ballots to overturn the election. That’s not to mention his platform which I see as abhorrent. I don’t consider putting this guy in the Oval Office to be an acceptable solution. Voting for Biden is the only effective defense against this. I have accepted that we are going to have a terrible genocide enabling president after this election. This is taking a mental toll on me for sure but at the end of the day it can always be worse. If we don’t agree on that premise then we won’t agree on much here.

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      6 months ago

      Yeah, I guess if you’ve accepted a genocide being committed in your name we are pretty far apart.

      This is not to chastise or shame, but to convey a personal experience: no amount of what we now call self-care will cover lending your support to stomach churning atrocity or standing idly by during its commission.

      When the people doing it tell you to support them or you’re next the situation can’t be made any more clear.

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        6 months ago

        Please don’t strawman me. I’m not a zionist, I’m not a proud liberal. My belief is that encouraging a Trump victory will result in MORE atrocities and should be avoided. I have accepted the truth that we will have a genocide-enabling president because, in terms of my participation in the 2024 election, that is out of my control. There are means of protest and expression outside of this election but, within the scope of the '24 presidential election and our casted votes, this is simply the reality that we have to work with. My phrasing of “accepting” is not in terms of complacency with my country’s actions but acceptance that within the scope of which box I check on Election Day, I will reluctantly have to vote for someone who supports a genocide because the alternative is to not participate.

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          6 months ago

          the alternative isn’t not to participate!

          the alternative is to give voice to your true beliefs and desires!

          i guarantee there is a ticket that you would support. you may not believe in the party for socialism and liberation but there is definitely some group that actually represents your politics!

          even if you don’t truly walk away from omelas, never to return, telling the democrat party that you won’t support a genocide isn’t not participating! it’s using your meaningful, powerful voice to tell them that you represent voters they could have if they just don’t run the perpetrator of a genocide!

          stand up and let them know that you won’t tolerate their bullshit!

          imagine even the most goofy outcome, biden steps down at the convention and they run kamala and someone else on a platform of peace. wouldn’t that be balm to your soul? wouldn’t you be proud that you stood up even on the vile and worthless internet for what’s right instead of a poison compromise?

          you have the power to make a difference, use it!

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              6 months ago

              there literally are not only two options. you can join me and vote la riva. i’m sure the greens are running someone if youre aligned that direction.

              if you just feel petulant that day there’s a whole host of jokers that are always around and while their platforms might be as asinine as “give everyone a pony” (see what i did there?), at least youre not supporting a genocide.

              you have options! your voice matters more in the weird harmony of people calling for the democrats to run anyone but biden than it does in the discordant cacophony of those browbeaten and bullied into pulling the lever for the architect of our broken nation who’s currently pissing away the cost of universal healthcare on weapons shipments to israel!