After years of reddit/twitter/facebook propping up fascism/bigotry with algorithms & bots I’m honestly surprised and relieved to be in an online space that clearly rejects their ideology.

They can have reddit/facebook/twitter. AFAIC the only way to reach some of these people is to leave them alone long enough to realize on their own.

Lemmy.world admins are doing an amazing job dealing with everything. Their recent decision to defederate from exploding heads (or whatever its called) really goes to show that they’re in it for the right reasons. > https://lemmy.world/post/694810?scrollToComments=true

  • Spectator@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    1 year ago

    How’s that Nazi bar story go again?

    I was at a shitty crust punk bar once getting an afterwork beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “No. Get out.”

    And the dude next to me says, “Hey, I’m not doing anything. I’m a paying customer,” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “Out. Now,” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed.

    Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “You didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”

    And I was like, “Oh okay,” and he continues.

    "You have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after a while they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

    And then THEY bring friends, and the friends bring friends, and they stop being cool and then you realize, ‘Oh shit. This is a nazi bar now.’ And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down."

    And I was like, “Oh damn,” and he said, “Yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”

    And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.

    -iamragesparkle

    • zombuey@lemmy.worldEnglish
      171·
      1 year ago

      fuck thats so good so perfectly understandable. When we think about genius we tend to think about mathematicians and physicist working on problems no one else understands. The real genius’s out there though in my opinion are people who understand something so well and so fully they can break down a concept like this. A story anyone can understand.

      • Robust Mirror@aussie.zoneEnglish
        7·
        1 year ago

        Absolutely. I’ve heard if you can’t explain something in a way that a beginner would understand, you don’t know it as well as you think you do. That’s real mastery.