The impact of this legislation isn’t entirely clear yet, but what is clear: whether TikTok is banned or sold to new owners, millions of people in the U.S. will no longer be able to get information and communicate with each other as they presently do.

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This is despite the fact that it has been well-established law for almost 60 years that U.S. people have a First Amendment right to receive foreign propaganda.

The law limits liability to intermediaries—entities that “provide services to distribute, maintain, or update” TikTok by means of a marketplace, or that provide internet hosting services to enable the app’s distribution, maintenance, or updating. The law also makes intermediaries responsible for its implementation.

The law explicitly denies to the Attorney General the authority to enforce it against an individual user of a foreign adversary controlled application, so users themselves cannot be held liable for continuing to use the application, if they can access it.

Enacting this legislation has undermined this long standing, democratic principle. It has also undermined the U.S. government’s moral authority to call out other nations for when they shut down internet access or ban social media apps and other online communications tools.

Our lawmakers should work to protect data privacy, but this was the wrong approach. They should prevent any company—regardless of where it is based—from collecting massive amounts of our detailed personal data, which is then made available to data brokers, U.S. government agencies, and even foreign adversaries.

Thoughts?

  • Toneswirly@lemmy.world
    5·
    6 months ago

    I dont have the same stake as a user but as a privacy-concerned person with some misgivings about the way Chinese companies spy on their users I am cool with making it harder for them to do this.

  • remotelove@lemmy.ca
    51·
    6 months ago

    I’ll break down my thoughts into several related blurbs. This is a complicated topic, so I’ll be as direct and intentional as I can be with the knowledge I have.

    I do not agree that propaganda should be freely distributed by people or governments outside of the US. Propaganda is a weapon and should be treated as such. It needs effective countermeasures and if that means completely blocking the operation of a foreign company, so be it.

    I do agree that data protection laws need to be expanded which will help limit what any company, foreign or domestic, can collect about individuals. That is a no-brainer.

    Data protection laws are great, but we have seen time and time again that many companies give zero fucks and it’s still more profitable to pay any associated fines while still selling or misusing data. Foreign governments really don’t give a fuck what our laws are, either.

    I am not a lawyer, but it seems Lamont v. Postmaster General needs to be revised. A letter is not a cellphone. Cellphones can send, as well as receive information. Your data can be used to instantly craft propaganda specific to an individual. That is not good.

    Normally, I am a fairly staunch backer of the EFF, but I disagree with their stance on this one. Lamont v. Postmaster General simply doesn’t take into account modern technology.

    However, I have no problems with US citizens spreading messages to other US citizens, regardless of the subject, and as long as it’s not for the express purpose of restricting my personal rights in an extreme way. (A example of communication that should be restricted: US citizen-to-US citizen communication in regards to planning a coordinated terror attack would possibly be in direct violation of my rights or the rights of any intended victims so that wouldn’t be acceptable, IMHO.)

  • BigPotato@lemmy.world
    3·
    6 months ago

    Me deciding to send my buddy a communist meme or two does not have the same impact as a foreign government with minute to minute location data on individuals all across the country and a selection of content algorithmically delivered to influence them.

    Had there been no algorithm and content was presented in a “timeline” feed, then yeah, I could draw the parallels but, Jesus, did EFF take Chinese money or something? Fucks sake guys. Yeah, there’s a lot of competing interests from places like Meta and such that likely influenced the vote but by itself it deserved the ban.

    • umbrella
      2·
      6 months ago

      by that logic other countries should all ban us apps too

      • BigPotato@lemmy.world
        1·
        6 months ago

        Okay? Yeah. By that logic other countries shouldn’t have US or FIVE EYES Country fucking around with EULAs that allow them to collect your data. Everyone should stop playing with mega corps being cozy with governments.

        You want Facebook, you’re getting Zuckerbot tunneling everything to the CIA and anyone with a dollar. Countries as a whole should have better digital protections for their citizens.