• argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    The only person whose commute time I know off the top of my head right now commutes by car in 15~20 minutes, so 30~45 minutes is not great.

    People spend far too much of their time working or commuting as it is. The last thing they need is even more commute time.

    • Well, its not like the six lane highways going in and out of cities like LA are void of traffic jams. Cars are not a real solution to lower commute time, especially since they take a lot of space, so cities need to be much wider, just holding streets for cars, instead of having the building closer together.

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        1 year ago

        How do you deliver goods to and from a business inside a city, if not by truck? You still need streets for trucks.

        • Yeah, but for those trucks you can do with one or two lanes, where you would need 4 lanes otherwise to accomodate the car travel. In my country an average supermarket needs about 2 trucks a day to supply 5000 people. So thats 12 trucks a week or roughly 420 people supplied by a truckload. Assuming people to go to the supermarket once per week, and 2.5 people supplied per car, that is 168 cars for every truck. And a truck doesnt take more space on the road than maybe 4 cars.

          So in our example, with favourable assumptions for cars (e.g. you’d expect grocery shopping a bit more often than once a week, and many household only have one or two people) you need 42 times the road space for the car traffic of the supermarket, compared to the truck traffic.

          I live in an inner city in Europe. I have two supermarkets in 5 minutes walking distance, 4 supermarkets in 10 minutes walking distance, and another 3 just one trainstation away (also about 10 minutes door to door). There is no need for a car and the supermarkets do perfectly fine, with a small road connecting them.