One thing I never got, even if I understand lot of things is the obsession with Gay Pride. So many things make sense from the techbro/tech nerd/technofascist/reactionary etc mindsets, but that so many of them are obsessed with Gay Pride just doesn’t seem to make sense to me.
E: Don’t get me wrong, I can make up reasons and make them fit into some ideological framework, but they always feel like rationalizations/excuses to me, and not the real issue.
I think they can’t handle people being happy and proud to be different from them. There’s also a long standing misogyny in tech bro culture. Idk I see so many tendrils of the same thing there. It’s the same thing as when the bros at the game shop get misogynistic. It might be self pity? I know I see a lot of that in these guys. I guess at its core it’s probably ego, fueled by sacrifices made to get where they are, but they never became someone who can just be happy with themselves.
It’s easy to call them machine men with machine hearts, but our society made these people. They have everything but people. And I suppose they must feel very alienated by a community that often defines ourselves by the times we’ve had nothing but ourselves and each other. Sometimes it feels like they’re people who failed to be techno anarchists but that feels like I’m projecting.
Yeah but that only explains a subset of people, the techbros, and not the singular focus on gay pride. And even in tech bro culture you see the weird disconnect where a lot of the space seems BDSM positive (even if they are not in it themselves, or don’t get various of the roles (there is an undertone of misogyny in this acceptance but lets not go there)) or polyamory, but they get weird about gay pride (including a few of the Scotts (but only one of ‘our’ Scotts)).
I don’t get why they are so obsessed with getting their own parades. (or just focus on the ‘pride’ word, while ignoring the context). Must be a Dutch thing why I don’t get it, as I think pride parades are pretty normalized here ([rant] even if the rest of the lgbt rights seem to be on a downward trend, esp with the fascism festival our new gov will prob be, supported by one of the biggest fools in politics, the leader of our farmer party who recently said, re the ‘all pro gaza protests by students are anti-semetic’ moral panic. “I don’t get why we just don’t put up signs that protesting is illegal, that would fix the problem” (anti-democratic and dumb as well… the leader of the farmers party)[/rant])
Fun detail about Pride parade, when a pride parade was happening during a miners strike, they declared solidarity and the miners joined in on the parade.
E: Live footage from the second grey pride parade (The first had a small group of awkward nerds dressed up their normal clothes), and from other footage I saw, why can’t these chuds march properly? It always amazes me. (Same with their ‘what if antifa attacks us and we need to go all roman legion on them with our spears(*) and shields?!’ training)
*: I assume that is why they all carry flags, to use them as spears, not like the cops will control those flags for being potential weapons anyway. And us cultured people all know that the ‘real’ roman legions didn’t use spears, but swords and pilums.
How many farts do I need to huff before I am able to say this with a straight face?
One thing I never got, even if I understand lot of things is the obsession with Gay Pride. So many things make sense from the techbro/tech nerd/technofascist/reactionary etc mindsets, but that so many of them are obsessed with Gay Pride just doesn’t seem to make sense to me.
E: Don’t get me wrong, I can make up reasons and make them fit into some ideological framework, but they always feel like rationalizations/excuses to me, and not the real issue.
I think they can’t handle people being happy and proud to be different from them. There’s also a long standing misogyny in tech bro culture. Idk I see so many tendrils of the same thing there. It’s the same thing as when the bros at the game shop get misogynistic. It might be self pity? I know I see a lot of that in these guys. I guess at its core it’s probably ego, fueled by sacrifices made to get where they are, but they never became someone who can just be happy with themselves.
It’s easy to call them machine men with machine hearts, but our society made these people. They have everything but people. And I suppose they must feel very alienated by a community that often defines ourselves by the times we’ve had nothing but ourselves and each other. Sometimes it feels like they’re people who failed to be techno anarchists but that feels like I’m projecting.
Yeah but that only explains a subset of people, the techbros, and not the singular focus on gay pride. And even in tech bro culture you see the weird disconnect where a lot of the space seems BDSM positive (even if they are not in it themselves, or don’t get various of the roles (there is an undertone of misogyny in this acceptance but lets not go there)) or polyamory, but they get weird about gay pride (including a few of the Scotts (but only one of ‘our’ Scotts)).
I don’t get why they are so obsessed with getting their own parades. (or just focus on the ‘pride’ word, while ignoring the context). Must be a Dutch thing why I don’t get it, as I think pride parades are pretty normalized here ([rant] even if the rest of the lgbt rights seem to be on a downward trend, esp with the fascism festival our new gov will prob be, supported by one of the biggest fools in politics, the leader of our farmer party who recently said, re the ‘all pro gaza protests by students are anti-semetic’ moral panic. “I don’t get why we just don’t put up signs that protesting is illegal, that would fix the problem” (anti-democratic and dumb as well… the leader of the farmers party)[/rant])
Fun detail about Pride parade, when a pride parade was happening during a miners strike, they declared solidarity and the miners joined in on the parade.
E: Live footage from the second grey pride parade (The first had a small group of awkward nerds dressed up their normal clothes), and from other footage I saw, why can’t these chuds march properly? It always amazes me. (Same with their ‘what if antifa attacks us and we need to go all roman legion on them with our spears(*) and shields?!’ training)
*: I assume that is why they all carry flags, to use them as spears, not like the cops will control those flags for being potential weapons anyway. And us cultured people all know that the ‘real’ roman legions didn’t use spears, but swords and pilums.