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    • Buttons@programming.devEnglish
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      8 months ago

      I can understand your frustration. I currently feel that way towards a certain political party, but I have to keep an open mind because things change.

      For example, I don’t doubt what you said Democrats was true in past decades, but today I believe the Democrats are more friendly towards LGBT rights than Republicans are. It appears things have changed on those specific issues.

      Maybe we wont agree, but let’s at lets at least find clarity: Do you believe Republicans or Democrats are currently more friendly towards LGBT people?

        • Buttons@programming.devEnglish
          7·
          8 months ago

          Also, to get that clarity I was seeking. Do you:

          1. Recommend people vote for Democrats (sounds like no).
          2. Recommend people vote for Republicans.
          3. Recommend people vote for third-parties or not vote at all.

          These are the only 3 possibilities. Which are you?

          For example, if you believe that Republicans are better for LGBT issues, then I want to hear you say it: “I think Republicans are better on LGBT issues”. I have my own opinion on this which I will keep to myself, I really just want you to be clear about your view and then let everyone judge for themselves what they think is right.

        • Buttons@programming.devEnglish
          51·
          8 months ago

          All fair criticisms of Democrats in my opinion.

          The only thing I have a problem with is your “never vote Democrat” rule. You do you, but I believe voting in a way that will most help LGBT people, and most help women’s reproductive rights, etc–I believe that if you want to cast votes that most support those causes, it will sometimes require voting for a Democrat.

            • Buttons@programming.devEnglish
              1·
              8 months ago

              Earlier you said:

              i’m permanently anti democrat party

              and I read that as “I will never vote democrat”. I see now that’s not what you said.

              I too would love to see us do better than the two deeply flawed parties we have now. I wish we had a better voting system that allowed better parties.

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      51·
      8 months ago

      i’m permanently anti democrat party.

      thats a person issue not a democrat issue.

      to be fair the people who removed about “both sidesing” generally have a point, centrists fucking suck dude.

      Centrists will pull some shit like “well maybe, we shouldn’t ban gay marriage, but we should still restrict their rights, it’s only fair right?”

    • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      8 months ago

      this happened to be back in the 90’s & 00’s when biden et al. spearheaded non-dischargeable student loan debt; anti-gay marriage; and a ban on gays in the military and now i’m permanently anti the party that rolled back don’t ask don’t tell, embraced marriage and healthcare rights for queer people and have forgiven tons of student loan debt. I’m definitely not a psy-op. Pay no attention to the fact that no one calls them ‘the democrat party’ except people who have 1000+ hours viewing fox news.