• LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    Actually read Marx before you call people tankies then.

    Someone will always want what others have.

    Called trade, a feature of communism, not exploitation, a feature of capitalism.

    Also lol “source: even the damn bible” and your, like, vibes about like, ‘human nature’, man (which isn’t a real thing btw, there’s no unifying human experience actually) isn’t very convincing.

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      8 months ago

      I have read Marx, and acting like people who subscribe to his trash aren’t tankies is hilarious. You are a tankie if you do. And please show me where this perfect utopia has occurred in history. There is and always will be exploited people. The real world doesn’t exist in your wannabe utopia, because if it could, it would have happened already. You can do exactly what you’re talking about, but it requires force to get done. They did it in the USSR and people were miserable and still cleaning up that shit even 30 years later. Only people who have never lived through it, think communism is cool.

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        8 months ago

        Oh okay so you’re an anti-communist neolib shill lol. I guess actual tankies (auth-left as opposed to anarchists) were right and neolibs do use it as derogatory against all communists.

        if it could, it would have happened already Please show me where it happened

        Yeah this is reasonable and normal to think about landing on the moon in the 1800s. Great rhetoric bud.

        I’m from Russia btw, born in USSR. Fash/neolib post-western-shock-therapy Russia of today and Putin is cringe. USSR was mostly cringe. USA also cringe. Has nothing to do with leftism, anarchism or the works of Marx or Kropotkin or Emma Goldman or Rosa Luxembourg etc etc. Still being communist and criticizing the USSR is just being normal and having critical thinking, rather than treating ideology as football teams lol.

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          8 months ago

          Oh okay so you’re an anti-communist neolib shill lol. I guess actual tankies (auth-left as opposed to anarchists) were right and neolibs do use it as derogatory against all communists.

          I don’t subscribe to any political leaning. I continually find myself to be more of a mutt of political ideologies than one thing. All communism ends with authoritarianism. Otherwise it would have worked by now.

          Yeah this is reasonable and normal to think about landing on the moon in the 1800s. Great rhetoric bud.

          Lol what the fuck does the moon landing have to do with a economic form of gov? Capitalism was around way before we landed on the moon…and so was communism.

          I’m from Russia btw, born in USSR. Fash/neolib post-western-shock-therapy Russia of today and Putin is cringe.

          Cool, i have tons of family from ex ussr block states. The ussr left them in shambles because of failed Communism that was forced upon them. They are still to this day dealing with it.

          USSR was mostly cringe.

          Mostly? Lol

          USA also cringe.

          Sure we have our faults.

          Has nothing to do with leftism, anarchism or the works of Marx or Kropotkin or Emma Goldman or Rosa Luxembourg etc etc. Still being communist and criticizing the USSR is just being normal and having critical thinking, rather than treating ideology as football teams lol.

          Sounds more like you’re treating them as a football team… communism to you is your team, you’ve made that clear.

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            8 months ago

            would have worked by now

            Are you silly, or just a child? Like people pre-wright brothers would say that about heavier than air flight. People used to say that about moon landing too, hence why I brought it up. I don’t want to embarrass you by chewing that analogy further.

            communism is your team

            Yes and?

            This doesn’t prevent me from thinking critically and saying things like “Stalin bad on gay rights” and “holodomor is genocide” while also saying “Lenin good on gay rights” or that the USSR had great housing and public transport, especially when you consider it was just barely industrialised and fought through a brutal land war and would go on to beat the US to space.

            I don’t subscribe

            Nah man, you’re just ignorant of what you’re talking about and that’s why you think you’re a mix of ideologies, even though ideologies exist for a reason as more or less logically complete systems of thought, you’re not some enlightened centrist.

            I can’t fix this for you and you don’t seem to want to fix it. Have a nice day.

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              Are you silly, or just a child? Like people pre-wright brothers would say that about heavier than air flight. People used to say that about moon landing too, hence why I brought it up. I don’t want to embarrass you by chewing that analogy further.

              Ah you’re one of those tankies who thinks that because it’s not the 1800s Communism will magically work…sure thing champ…so the people who are the GOP, where do they fit into all of this? Do you plan on launching them into space?

              Yes and?

              This doesn’t prevent me from thinking critically and saying things like “Stalin bad on gay rights” and “holodomor is genocide” while also saying “Lenin good on gay rights” or that the USSR had great housing and public transport, especially when you consider it was just barely industrialised and fought through a brutal land war and would go on to beat the US to space.

              Hahahahahaha holy fuck you’re insane. The USSR had great housing…fucking ROFL, some of my family who lived through that shit show are still dealing with it today. You’re so delusional it’s hilarious.

              Nah man, you’re just ignorant of what you’re talking about and that’s why you think you’re a mix of ideologies, even though ideologies exist for a reason as more or less logically complete systems of thought, you’re not some enlightened centrist.

              Lol sure thing champ. You’re the type who wants this shit because you’d be the one thinking you’re going to be running the show…got bad news for you, you’re the one living in the slums while farming for the rich dickheads running the show.

              I can’t fix this for you and you don’t seem to want to fix it. Have a nice day.

              Awesome glad we got that over with.