• tal@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      I mean, it’s not hard to start a mod site.

      I think what’s harder is to figure out a commercial model where you can manage to pay for the infrastructure and resource usage and write the associated client software.

      • Cagi@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        The client software is the big one. ModDB has the others but is all but dead save for a few old titles. Vortex really did Nexus a lot of favours; it’s turned into a great program, making modding easy for non-techie users.

    • ferret@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Minecraft is pretty much the only game with a large enough modding scene to support multiple platforms

        • ferret@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          7 months ago

          Curseforge is fine enough, modrinth is better, but people need to understand that at the end of the day you are just downloading hundreds of little programs off the internet and that there is little oversight into their content or behavior

          • tal@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            Technically, it would be possible to run the games themselves in a sandbox. I mean, games are a class of software packages that really don’t need to have access to my system as a whole.

            That’s really more on Microsoft or Apple or Valve or the Linux distro maintainers to work out, though – I don’t think that mod sites are in a position to do a lot about that, even if mods exacerbate the need for such a thing.

        • Shurimal@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          This is good. Modding can turn into the deepest dependency hell ever and not having access to a specific version of mod A can make mod B that you really love unusable. See: Skyrim VR and Unofficial Patch.

          • kbin_space_program@kbin.run
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            Yeah, that is absolutely something I’ve run into. To me though the matter of control of the content has to rest with the creators of said content.

          • tal@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            I feel like that’s really more an argument for a very small number of mods – the ones that everyone depends on – and I don’t think that the modding site can honestly do a lot to fix that. I think that it’s kind of on a game’s modding community to choose to depend on things that won’t go away. Maybe make the license more-prominent, so that really critical mods that other mods depend on can have a license that permits forking or something and are source-available. Like, highlight mods that don’t both permit forking and have source available and are dependencies of other mods in red or something.

        • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          7 months ago

          Nah, its easy. Just change the mod to something that removes rainbow flags in the game, they’ll delete it real fast. Probably will delete it even if the game originally never had them to begin with.

      • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        13
        ·
        7 months ago

        I don’t want to use their bloatware launcher. Games already have enough bloatware launcers as it is, I am not willfully adding another one. Fortunately I can still directly download from the site, but I have to log into an account and I hate having like a hundred accounts.

        Also, I just don’t like the idea of one website having a near monopoly on mod hosting. I would prefer multiple places, ideally ones without requiring an account or pushing bloatware.

        • Shurimal@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          7 months ago

          Vortex is not a launcher, it’s a mod manager. And you don’t have to use it, there are alternatives. But you should use a mod manager, manual installation/uninstallation is really bad practice that can and will break things.

        • kbin_space_program@kbin.run
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          You can also use Mod Organizer 2. Connects to their site, but you dont have to. Virtualizes the mod folder for Creation Engine games so its much cleaner to add/remove mods and even have different install profiles

    • dsemy@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      7 months ago

      It doesn’t though? There many games for which I use ModDB and many games have modding communities on dedicated websites.

      Some of the biggest modding communities (GTA, Minecraft) don’t really use it at all. It’s very popular with TES and Fallout (not surprising considering the original name was TESNexus), but as someone who has spent a very large amount of time modding Bethesda RPGs, many good mods aren’t found on Nexus, even for those games.

      I love Nexus. I uploaded 3 mods over the years, and with their donation point system (you get points each month based on unique downloads), I got like 15 free games from their store by this point.

      • HackerJoe@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        At least you can get the mods from Nexus. If you have the GoG version of a game and the mod you want is on the Steam Workshop, that royally sucks.
        (yes I know you can get most of them with SteamCMD, it still sucks)

  • kandoh@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    7 months ago

    Unfathomable how Microsoft and Bethesda could leave so much money on the table not having Fallout 3 remade and ready to launch next to the show

    • SK4nda1
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      They are banking on the fallout 76 model. Trying to get people to buy lootboxes and whatever.

        • SK4nda1
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          Ah my bad. I remember they having bad dlcs and cashgrabby content at launch. Perhaps i’m misremembering. :-)

          • Renacles@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            The launch was awful but they never had DLCs or loot boxes. The biggest controversy was the subscription service.

  • LucidNightmare@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    7 months ago

    Considering how much time and effort NexusMods has put into creating a very good website to host the mods, AND a very good mod manager (not the first iteration, that was really bad) to download and install the mods, I have nothing but respect for them. Granted, I bought a lifetime from them, because I had been using the site since I was a child learning what modding even was. Now, when I tell me friends about how easy it is to grab a Collection, and it installs everything the way it needs to be so you can just get to gaming, I love them even more. Getting people to try modding their games was frustrating as hell before because not everyone spent their entire adolescent free time on the computer trying to install mods that were never going to be playable because you were too young to understand why your computer was not powerful enough to run it!