• Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works
      63·
      2 months ago

      I would say it is not just capitalism as it happens in other non capitalist societies too. It is corrupt governments/economic systems that who favour big money over protecting and fostering a healthy society. To their own detriment eventually.

      • melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
        22·
        2 months ago

        you just described capitalism though.

        literally, at its core, the idea that ownership is what provides value-not labor or the soil or whatever.

        literally veneration of big money over everything else.

        • Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works
          21·
          2 months ago

          That is where I think a lot of people get it wrong…I am describing centralization and it takes many forms across many political and economic systems.

            • Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              2 months ago

              You said I just described capitalism and I agree, but really am describing centralization of which capitalism is just only one of many centralized systems that lead to poor outcomes for society if not managed carefully. I see a lot of people blaming capitalism and point to other centralized systems as the solution when they are really just more of the same. People are greedy.

          • melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
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            2 months ago

            you talk a lot about the conditions of a system that takes a staggering amount of maintenance as if they’re a natural unavoidable absolute of humanity.

            then use that to imply that any of what’s currently going on addresses any of these problems in a way anyone who isn’t high (and apparently some of us who are) would ever accept.

            its not convincing.