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      What if the other side is also genocide along with totalitarian fascist rule?

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        You still would be voting for a self proclaimed non-Jewish Zionist whose pockets are lined by Israel to commit genocide. Don’t let any “other side” or bullshit “trolley problem” argument take that away from you. At least have the balls to own it. This whole purely pragmatic approach to “lesser evil dilemma” is what brought Biden to power in the first place. But yeah surely next time it’ll be better. Doesn’t matter how many people die because “Orange man bad”.

        Since I couldn’t get the message across on my first comment, let me repeat myself. There is no lesser evil when it comes to genocide.

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          Trump would absolutely make the genocide significantly worse than the track it’s currently on if he wins. And he’s gonna make life in the US worse too. The “both sides are equally bad” rhetoric has absolutely failed over the last 8 years. If he lost in 2016 the entire world would be on a completely different track and if you don’t want to believe it then I’m confident that you don’t actually know the differences in policy and ideologies between the Democratic and Republican parties.

          And before anyone says I’m accuses me of being a liberal, I’m a libertarian socialist and I’m registered to the Socialist Party of Massachusetts. I voted Bernie in both primaries then Green Party in 2016 (which I’ve come to regret even though Clinton was going to win my home state by a huge margin) then Biden in 2020. I voted this way in '20 because while Biden ignores socialists Trump wants them all dead.

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            Socialism without revolution is a fringe and hopeless endeavour. It requires fundamentally changing the mechanisms by which the economy functions.

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          There is no lesser evil when it comes to genocide.

          This is obviously untrue. If the option a) is genocide and b) is genocide and also dismantling the methods to protest it, methods to oust the decision makers, dismantling national security in resources and relationships, at the same time as blatantly plundering both the pockets of citizens and communal coffers, there’s very obviously a more evil option.

          Equivocation and black-white thinking is comfortable, but there are still shades of brown when the shit has hit the fan.

          In the best of worlds you wouldn’t be in this situation, now you are, make the better choice.

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      Yeah so let’s elect a man that said he’d be a dictator to the highest office and put him in charge of the largest military on the globe. Sounds like a nice alternative in our facsimile of democracy.

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        Lemmy sure does seem to have a more vocal insane minority that are either Russian shills, or just want to burn down the US. This is my biggest issue with the fediverse.

        Anyone who claims Trump and Biden are the same is just a fool.

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          There is no purpose to that line of thinking in our election system. They believe you should vote for who you truly want and do not compromise. In a perfect world this is how it would be. We do not inhabit a perfect world, it is our job to build towards it. The only thing to do in the interim is to make sure the American Empire is not brandished as a sword of Trump’s will and push to change the way we vote to a ranked system. It is easier to start this ranked movement locally and then take it to the feds.

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          Yeah a lot of people here are ideologues without a real ideology, they don’t really have much interest in actually making things better they’re just desperate to feel superior to the rest of us. Basically conspiracy theory mentality ‘I know the real truth and you’re all dumb’ but ‘I’m more ideologically pure than you’ that’s why it’s always such extreme and totally one sided - they won’t interact with the reality because it makes it harder to feel so correct when you admit things like this conflict is incredibly complex politically and morally