• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Hi, Palestinian American here, stop fetishizing our corpses as an excuse to let the guy who wants the genocide to come here too into office.

    Badna N3aesh.

    Edit: fuckin’ love the full mask off reply of

    “The genocide of your people isn’t about your people!”

    Whitest bougeyvik bullshit I have ever witnessed put to keyboard, PoC aren’t even allowed ownership of being genocided anymore if whitey doesn’t like how we decide to respond to it.

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      So you’re not gonna answer anymore huh? I can only assume that you’re a second generation immigrant and you’re not capable of actually speaking, let alone reading or writing in Arabic. If you’re indeed Palestinian go ask your parents what I wrote lmao. Machine translation is not gonna help you.

      Assuming that YOU indeed are who you claim, let me tell you something. Unlike you I actually grew up in Palestine and I’m Palestinian first. You seem to be first of all American and this whole Palestine thing is more of a thing where in high school you bring some Hommos and celebrate diversity. But we’re not some illusion of your assumed identity. We are real people living real lives, and we’re dying and being oppressed right now. This is happening at the hands of a genocidal maniac armed and supported by the current president Joe Biden. Many of my relatives and friends have died, my family has been displaced and lives in diaspora.

      Since you’re mainly American you won’t understand this, but if Biden isn’t willing to give up his die hard Zionist stance, we’re not gonna vote for him. If Trump wins the election and the US becomes a dictatorship, we will go somewhere else. We have left our lives behind and we’re prepared to do it again. And we’re not going to sacrifice ourselves because people like you are too afraid to give up their cushy American lifestyle.

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      Thanks for saying this. The comments are crazy. Like it would be more convenient if you could be genocided after the election, because you know this genocide is kind of in the way of some other domestic issues we’re having. So if you could just let Biden have this one until after the election that’d be great.

      I take back everything. This guy makes no sense and I completely misunderstood the comment. And I don’t think he speaks Arabic but claims to speak for Palestinian Americans. L take.

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        No I’m talking about you.

        Those “other domestic issues” is the other guy wanting to bring the genocide here that you seem to have glossed over.

        Palestinian corpses are not a set piece for white leftists to ignore their duty to mitigate harm in the US and still feel like they get to play ally at all the grammable marches and rallies.

        You’ll not find one Palestinian American who thinks Biden is a good president right now, and you’ll just as soon find one who won’t look at you like a complete moron for thinking letting Trump win over it would be of any help to our cause in the slightest, in fact, they’d probably assume you were an Israeli agent agitating on Bibi’s behalf. Who else would side against keeping Trump out of office after he gave Israel a free hand on The West Bank, East Jerusalem, and The Golan Heights?

        Edit: claims to be Arab, but swears they and all their totally Arabic family members are gonna let Trump win because “but Dems bad too!” When Trump brings the genocide here, Palestinians will remember all the help “Arabs” such as yourself showed us by laying the red carpet out for him.

        Either you’re a liar or a knowing collaborator, either way you are no ally to Palestinians here in America, nor are you any help to them in the homeland.

        Go ahead keeping on feeling righteous about letting fascism win to “punish” people you’ve probably ranted a hundred times now would rather lose than let a progressive win, meaning Trump winning is literally just giving them what they want in your backwards line of thinking…

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          عفكرة ما حدا غير انا وإياك رح يقرأ ايش بتكتب وبالصراحة بتحكيلي انو مش مصدق انو أنا عربي بس بشوفكش ترد غير انو كتبت بدنا نعيش… طب ماشي عايشين بس كيف بتعيش أهل غزة… احنا مستقبلنا ولا بيدن ولا الترمب رح يتحسن علينا و وأولاد عمنا رح يخلصو شغلهم قبل ما أي حد عندو فرصة لغير اشي

          احكيلي كمان مرة انو أنا ندل وجاسوس بس انت مقاومتك انك بتساعد لبيدين عن جد؟ مش عارف وينتا جيت على أمريكا ووينتا اخير مرة بقيت انت بالبلاد بس تحكيش عني أو عن اهلي أو صحابي إذا بدك تمص لإلي احتلنا وقتلنا ولو سمحت رد علي بالعربي إذا عروبتك على هالدرج انك بتعرف مين عربي ومين لا هيك عالسريع

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          وأنا عربي يا زلمه بعرفش مع مين بتحكي بس ولا حدا من حواليي بدو الترمب يفوز وبنفس الوقت ولا واحد منهم رح ينخب لبيدن

          None of my relatives, Palestinian / Arab / muslim friends is gonna vote for Biden. And none of them want Trump to win. In the end the same people who are now refusing to vote for Biden aren‘t in America because that was always the dream. We ended up here because of the geopolitical games and the support of the settler colonial Zionist project that forced us to abandon our homes because there’s no future. And if my relatives who died from American and European ammunition could have lived if Biden had stopped them, I’m not gonna keep him in power.

          It’s up to the DNC to act according to the will of their voters. Voting now for Biden will send exactly what message, that he can get away with facilitating a genocide and that our lives are unimportant compared to the bigger picture? And for the record, I don’t know anyone who’d vote for trump. People will simply stay at home or vote third party.

          Everyone would have wanted a different outcome, but it’s just impossible to ask me or anyone to put a cross for the murderer of our families.

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      7 months ago

      It’s not just about you guys. If we let this slide then our laws about not supporting human rights violations are a dead letter. We have important domestic reasons for holding Biden’s feet to the fire.

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        Oh good, our laws about not supporting human rights violations will TOTALLY be stronger with Trump in office. Thanks.

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          They aren’t going to stay strong if we don’t defend them either though. They can become a dead letter under the Democrats too.

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            Yeah, forgive me for not seeing “Well, if we contribute to Biden’s defeat, MAYBE next time, after the Trumpist genocide here in the States is done and if we get a democracy again, we won’t tolerate genocide abroad, because THIS time there will be PRECIDENT for giving power to fascism if the politicians don’t listen to less than half of their own party on foreign policy!” as a particularly appealing line of reasoning.

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              Wait, you think Trump is going to commit genocide in the US? Lmao. That’s a new level even for Biden die hards.

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                  Oh wow, now anyone who wants to hold Biden accountable hates LGBT people?

                  Imagine using this many bad faith arguments to defend a politician. And not asking yourself where things went wrong.

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                    Oh wow, now anyone who wants to hold Biden accountable hates LGBT people?

                    Is that what you got from “Trump will definitely perform a genocide on LGBT folk and pretending otherwise is delusional at best or homophobic at worst”?

                    I mean, I guess if you want to call yourself out for seeing the only means of ‘holding Biden accountable’ as ushering in a fascist Trump regime, that’s on you, but I have to admit I wasn’t expecting to see an admission quite that naked.