• CableMonster
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    8 months ago

    The argument is that it was a normal financing process and there was no victim or person/corporation that claimed to be wronged. People are allowed to claim their property is worth whatever they wish. Its really that simple and obvious. That is why I say you dont know anything about the case because you only have the standard NPC insults.

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      8 months ago

      people are allowed to claim their property is worth whatever they wish

      Not on their taxes. I can’t claim my property is worth $1 to avoid paying taxes on it.

      That is why I say you dont know anything about the case

      And if that is true you have done nothing to explain the case better to me or anyone else who might read this thread.

      The internet is full of idiots who think the Earth is flat, or that Kevin O’Leary is an expert in the American Legal system. You’re not going to convince anyone with “just trust me bro.”

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        You are are right about taxes, but that is not what he did. The government get to assign the value for property taxes and the property owner has the right to contest them. Also property taxes dont actually reflect the value of the property, and that gets very skewed on higher value properties.

        If you have things you think he did wrong then I can tell you why I disagree, but I cant just argue without being pointed in the direction you think I am wrong.

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          8 months ago

          If you have things you think he did wrong then I can tell you why I disagree

          The things he was charged with.

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            8 months ago

            And like I said, it was normal perfectly legal things. If you want to get more specific then feel free, or if you want a more in depth explaination feel free to listen to the evil billionaire that you hate for reasons.

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              And like I said, it was normal perfectly legal things.

              And like I said: “it was legal, trust me bro” is not a legal defense.

              If you want to get more specific then feel free

              The evidence and arguments presented by the prosecution. You should be well familiar with them seeing as you know the case so well.

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                8 months ago

                I already told you these things, you can claim your property is worth whatever you want, they said you cant. And as I already explained property tax does not reflect the actual value, they pretended it does.

                There you go, I just told you the states arguments but you keep not wanting to listen. But sure, it was totally not a targeted prosecution.

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                  He signed a legal business document saying “I believe the property is worth X”. I signed another legal business document saying “I believe the property is worth Y” (notably not X).

                  Telling one person one thing and another person the opposite is textbook lying.

                  Lying in signed legal documents is fraud.

                  Your “knowledge” of the case clearly only comes from what Faux News has told you, which makes you less knowledgeable than someone who has been living under a rock.

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                    8 months ago

                    So then anyone that is selling their house for more than the property tax value is committing fraud? Great, now show me the tens of thousands of people that have done this that has been prosecuted.

                    Check out this fraud! The property is listed at $43 million and the tax assessment is $1.1 million, the fraud is insane! This person is in New York, they can sieze all their assets!