• Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    7 months ago

    Sorry, but a shovel is unskilled labour. A forklift driver is absolutely not. In the sense that you quite literally need prior qualifications in order to do it, it’s not something any basically functioning adult can do with on-the-job training.

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      7 months ago

      I’ve never heard of someone working as a shovel. That said, being able to shovel stuff all day without hurting yourself definitely takes skill.

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      7 months ago

      You ever why people don’t take you seriously? Its because you say shit like “forklift operators are skilled labour”.

      • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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        7 months ago

        Using the definition provided by @damnedfurry@lemmy.world (appearing as “ObjectivityIncarnate”), yes, they meet that definition. Forklift drivers are not trained on the job, they need a specific licence. That makes it not unskilled labour.

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            7 months ago

            You’re equivocating “skilled” in the same way the OP of this comment chain was to “unskilled”. You’re doing the equivalent of saying “a feather can’t be dark, because feathers are light.” Stop playing stupid semantic games.

            In the context of labor metrics, “skilled” and “unskilled” are not descriptors of overall difficulty. I’ve already posted a reminder of what the terms mean in this context above your comment, so there’s no excuse.

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                7 months ago

                lol, you gave me the mental image of someone opening the dictionary to look up a word, seeing its definition, then scoffing as you point at it, saying “That’s horseshit!”

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                  7 months ago

                  These the same dictionaries carry identical definitions for “irregardless” and “regardless”? Anyways defining fork and spoon operators as “skilled” is literally horseshit, I don’t care about your labored justifications.

          • Five@slrpnk.netOP
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            7 months ago

            Your comment has been removed due to using a slur. Please be more inclusive of our friends and allies with mental disabilities in the future.