It’s what US democracy is. In a lot of countries, you get to vote for people who represent you, and the system works out stopping people who are widely disliked by parties forming coalitions after the vote.
Look at the NL, and how it deals with a Trump-like candidate. He got a plurality of the vote, yet is unable to form a government because none of the other parties cooperate.
That’s my point, this is how the US works, this is not how democracy in general works. OP was saying that these faults are a natural consequence and inseparable from democracy. I’m bringing up a counterexample. It can be done better.
I think we agree on that the US system is incapable of stopping such a wildly unpopular candidate if they reach a plurality of the votes.
There’s a difference between voting for an ideal candidate and not being able to vote for one materially supporting a genocide. “not funding genocide” isn’t an ideal, it’s a bare minimum. If not funding genocide is ‘idealistic’ to you, then I want no part of anything you’re trying to sell and normalize.
Who’s trying to restrain the genocide? Last I checked Biden says nice things then does nothing but send more weapons?
Doesn’t matter, that option is not one of the two choices.
This is the cause of voter apathy btw, when you tell people there’s no way to stop genocide, they’re not going to feel like they can effect change. And when voter apathy sets in democrats lose. Democrats know this, yet pursue political avenues that foster voter apathy. I live in a blue state, nothing I can do will save the Democrats from themselves.
It’s what US democracy is. In a lot of countries, you get to vote for people who represent you, and the system works out stopping people who are widely disliked by parties forming coalitions after the vote.
Look at the NL, and how it deals with a Trump-like candidate. He got a plurality of the vote, yet is unable to form a government because none of the other parties cooperate.
Great. We’re not in the NL. That’s not how it works here.
That’s my point, this is how the US works, this is not how democracy in general works. OP was saying that these faults are a natural consequence and inseparable from democracy. I’m bringing up a counterexample. It can be done better.
I think we agree on that the US system is incapable of stopping such a wildly unpopular candidate if they reach a plurality of the votes.
Right, I’m just trying to head off the ridiculous idea that some people have that in the US we can vote for our ideal candidate.
There’s a difference between voting for an ideal candidate and not being able to vote for one materially supporting a genocide. “not funding genocide” isn’t an ideal, it’s a bare minimum. If not funding genocide is ‘idealistic’ to you, then I want no part of anything you’re trying to sell and normalize.
Doesn’t matter, that option is not one of the two choices.
It’s “try to restrain the genocide” or “make genocide worse”. Pick one. And if you say they’re equally bad, you’re an idiot.
Who’s trying to restrain the genocide? Last I checked Biden says nice things then does nothing but send more weapons?
This is the cause of voter apathy btw, when you tell people there’s no way to stop genocide, they’re not going to feel like they can effect change. And when voter apathy sets in democrats lose. Democrats know this, yet pursue political avenues that foster voter apathy. I live in a blue state, nothing I can do will save the Democrats from themselves.
You want Democrats to singlehandedly change the First Past the Post voting system?