• MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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    My favorite one is when our utility company asks me to donate to help pay for people’s utilities like they aren’t raking in record amount of cash.

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      Why don’t you help by lowering the prices and being more reasonable? How do I even now you’re actually using the money I donate for people’s bills? That’s a crazy donation request.

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        Come on now, be reasonable. Lowering the prices would mean they can’t buy their 5th mansion. Just stop being selfish and give them a little more money.

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    Those charities have huge overhead. Very little money goes to the actual cause.

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    Remember kids, they also get to use the money they guilted off of you to reduce their tax liability because they get credit for donating your money!

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        I used to work for a retail chain many years ago and I do not think this is true for everywhere.

        When we were asking for donations it was tracked and if our location didn’t get enough donations our store manager would get talked to by his district manager. I don’t know exactly what happened to the money once it was donated, but I don’t think they would have been so adamant about getting the donations if they didn’t make anything from it.

        This was like 20 years ago though, maybe its different now.

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          Yeah unfortunately the time and place it happened can change the legalities tremendously, but in general right now it appears that at least the type mentioned in the OP is in fact a donation from the customer directly to the charity. The business who is acting as a middleman will not have the donation affect their books, and the customer can keep these receipts so they can claim the donation on their own taxes.

          Even if you don’t itemize your deductions, you can still claim up to 300$ in donations.
          Edit: Apparently this was a temporary thing with the CARES act for 2020 and 2021 and is no longer active.

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        does not get any benefit

        I’d say free PR is still a benefit. A bullshitter’s benefit

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        It depends on exactly what the store is doing.

        If the store is representing the extra charge as a donation to a specific charity, generally, the customer can deduct that.

        If it’s far more vague, like, “Give $10 to help poor kids in Africa” the ultimate destination for the funds could be the company’s own ledgers, which it would then use for its own charitable activities and collect the tax deduction, as long as they “help poor kids in Africa.”

        And some stores are just lying. CVS, for instance, was sued as part of a class action suit when, after the company pledges $10 million to the American Diabetes Association, then collected money from customers to fund that pledge.

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      Here me out before accusing me of being a billionaire toady.

      Not really, at least not in the US. Charitable contributions are a deduction from taxable income, not a credit, so it is still a net financial loss to donate.

      Where the benefit comes is the PR and power over the organization they donate to and its sphere of influence.

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        It is a net loss if you donate your own money, in this situation Company isn’t donating from its own revenue. It is donating customers money.

        If I donated 1000$ and claimed tax deductible it would be a net loss. But if I asked everyone for donations, raised 1000$, donated that and claimed tax deductible that wouldn’t be a net loss.

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        Yeah if it is a person asking me to donate on behalf of a company I’m like “why would I let this company take all the credit?” That usually ends the conversation as they impersonate an NPC immediately having to go into ‘think mode’.

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      I think that’s a myth as it isn’t income it goes into a separate fund to transfer 1:1.

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        Even if it is revenue, it is still a net loss. All it does is reduce taxable income, which is still makes the donation a net loss. For anyone not aware, the current federal US corporate income tax rate is 21%. So if a company gives 100 dollars to charity, they only save 21 dollars in taxes, so they are still down roughly 79 dollars, depending on the state taxes of where they are incorporated.

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    Or just…donate the perfectly good food they constantly throw out into the cadged dumpsters designed to keep homeless people out… Litteraly would cost them nothing…

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      “But if we feed them then those broke homeless people won’t come in and spend their (nonexistent) money on our food!” -upper management

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        And there in lies the real problem, they are more scared of their quarterly growth reports and some imaginary ‘lawsuit’ from homeless people (which I believe in most places you can’t sue over donated food) than they care about keeping people alive.

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    And I will never ever give these fools my actual phone number for discounts. Just use any area code w/ 867-5309 to get around this.

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      Jenny Jenny, who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to. I know you think I’m like the others before who saw your name and number on the wall

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    Yeah, this really bothers me. Because in reality, that company that you give money to at checkout is just going to bundle that all up and it’s a donation in their name, used as a tax write-off. You as the shopper might feel nice and warm and fuzzy, but you’re just giving a multimillion or billion dollar company a tax break. Just donate as yourself. If you want to help XYZ cause, do it on your own. My two cents.

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    Then they will say it is more efficient to merge the donations with regular revenue and make bulk donations every quarter or something.

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      Don’t tip on those things. The company supplying those things are getting the cut. And it’s mandatory. They are an office space scam.

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    I hate these donate screens because I have no idea where the donation actually goes and i don’t want to have to do a ton of research at the grocery checkout about whether its a good charity.

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      I have never seen a donation bin/screen/what have you that didn’t say what charity it was for.

      If a business is collecting donations and then not giving them to the charities in question, that’s just fraud.

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        Yeah but just because they name the charity doesn’t mean its a good charity. Some charities just aren’t good ones to donate to and you’re basically just throwing money down a well when you do donate to them.

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    I don’t trust them to actually donate anyway. How would you ever find out? I suspect these are scams to hold the money and get interest off it even if they do ultimately donate it.

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      Even assuming this isn’t a scam, it’s certainly not something they’re doing out of the goodness of their hearts - must be some combination of a) a tax write-off and b) an opportunity to claim credit for other people’s donations. (“Stop & Shop is proud to have donated $275,000 this quarter to help families in need”)

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        You forgot c) the donation is processed via the corporation’s own charity foundation, and skims some money off the top to pay for the salaries of the people “running” the foundation. i.e. the c-suite of the company, or their relatives.

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      Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but I heard that how it works is they donate the money first, get the tax write-off and then try to hit people up at the checkouts to refund all the money after the fact. That way they get the tax break for donating the money without actually being out of pocket. I don’t know what happens if people donate more than the amount they spent, but I think I can take a reasonable guess.

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    To be fair, I bet these companies strike deals with the charitable organizations to in turn raise visibility of those charities among the company’s customers.