“Every previous president would have ended it by now.”

“Biden literally couldn’t do worse.”

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    I live in a swing state and I’m voting third party. It’s not great, but it’s the only thing I can bring myself to do. Between Gaza and Bidens commitment to pour billions of dollars into more cops and more surveillance, I just can’t do it.

    If he stepped down or they put someone else up I’d probably be happily voting dem, but they didn’t. It’s a shame. They said themselves that they’re fine to lose some progressive votes if they scoop up 3 or 4 Nikki Haley voters for every progressive lost. I guess I’m one of those. I dunno. I wish it was a better circumstance.

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      Just say you’re voting for Trump because that is what you’re doing.

      You’re just giving yourself deniability to yourself, but no one else is fooled in the slightest. In the general election, a vote for anyone but Biden amounts to a vote for Trump.

      Just say you prefer Trump’s approach to Palestine, Ukraine, human rights, women’s health, religious freedom, freedom of speech, gun rights, net neutrality, Healthcare, etc, etc, ect. Just say that.

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        Actually, I’m voting third party. If I wanted to vote for Trump I would just vote for Trump.

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          I’m familiar with these coping mechanisms, and any other year I’d tell you to vote your conscience.

          This year, a vote against Biden in a swing state is a vote for Trump and it tells me everything about your conscience I need to know.

          People think it’s hyperbole because they’ve heard Wolf too many times, but this is about democracy or not.

          I suspect you think you’re sending a message to Biden by voting third party. You’re not. You’re just messaging to the rest of society that you want Trump over Biden. It really is that simple. Don’t insult us by pretending it’s not. You are in a fucking swing state.

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            It’s not a coping mechanism. I simply have an idealogical difference to you. Calling it a coping mechanism insults your own intelligence.

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        I’ve frequently seen this claim, and similar ones, but it doesn’t really make sense. If not voting for Biden or not voting at all is actually a vote for Trump then his votes outnumber Biden’s by a landslide since ~80 million people don’t vote. So, by this logic, Trump should win and it shouldn’t even be close.

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          I think most folks can deduce that the intended meaning is that not voting for Biden is a choice that makes it more likely that Trump will win.

          Nobody is believing that not voting results in a filled out ballot for trump magically appearing.