Why should it bring down the boot? Porn is acceptable on reddit, users voted to make the sub NSFW in democratic fashion (following the wishes of Spez), NSFW content is opt-in, and moderators control the subreddits they moderate.
None of this goes against reddit rules or policies.
Because it wasn’t a porn sub before. They had, what, eleven million users? If you can’t see the problem there, I think you’re being a little disingenuous.
I can’t see the problem there as the people who own the sub get to decide how to run it per reddit’s policies. If switching to allowing NSFW images is an issue than isn’t any other rule or topic change an issue too? Can you actually describe what you think the problem is here?
Then you haven’t really thought about the situation at hand, then. Like, at all.
Imagine sending a picture to your friend. Unprompted, undiscussed. If the picture is a meme, we can both surely agree that that isn’t problematic in any way. If the picture is a dick pic, you’ve just committed sexual harassment.
Even though both were sent without explicit consent, the context of your existing relationship matters, and – in the context of you and your friend not sending sexually explicit photos to one another on the regular – the lack of consent in the case of sexual material is a significant issue.
This is essentially the problem with the scenario at hand. The people who suddenly had pornography show up on their front page did not consent to it by subscribing to a porn sub. Yes, even if it was voted on by a tiny minority of subscribers, and yes, even if the sub essentially became a porn sub – the eleven million existing subscribers didn’t consent to seeing that material.
There is, frankly, essentially no way to take an existing, large subreddit, with millions of users, and make it a porn subreddit without violating the consent of a significant chunk of those users. No matter how much the moderators want to do so.
Please don’t tell me I need to explain sexual consent to you.
The glaring oversight in your opinion is that all NSFW posts are clearly marked as NSFW, and desktop reddit along with all the mobile apps have settings requiring you to opt-in to view NSFW posts with further settings to actually display the image previews or hide them (default).
This would be akin to you and your friend both consenting to send NSFW images to one another, your friend sending a link with a NSFW tag (not even an actual image), and then you being shocked when you click it and find it’s a NSFW image.
Your whole argument is disingenuous and borders on concern trolling or pearl clutching. Reddit is full of porn and other NSFW images, so don’t act like they’re suddenly showing hard-core porn to a bunch of kids or something.
The glaring oversight in your opinion is that all NSFW posts are clearly marked as NSFW, and desktop reddit along with all the mobile apps have settings requiring you to opt-in to view NSFW posts with further settings to actually display the image previews or hide them (default).
But not all NSFW content is porn. And turning on NSFW visibility is not the same thing as being subscribed to a porn sub.
Your whole argument is disingenuous and borders on concern trolling or pearl clutching. Reddit is full of porn and other NSFW images, so don’t act like they’re suddenly showing hard-core porn to a bunch of kids or something.
Okay, let’s change the scenario a bit then. Let’s say I magically know you have NSFW content turned on, on your Reddit account. We’ve never conversed.
I then, unprompted, start sending you links to hardcore pornographic images, in your DMs. Once every half hour or so.
Is that something you think would be totally fine? Do you seriously think I wouldn’t be violating a lack of consent on your part? You’ve turned on visibility of NSFW posts, after all, you must be fine with seeing it!
Why should it bring down the boot? Porn is acceptable on reddit, users voted to make the sub NSFW in democratic fashion (following the wishes of Spez), NSFW content is opt-in, and moderators control the subreddits they moderate.
None of this goes against reddit rules or policies.
Because it wasn’t a porn sub before. They had, what, eleven million users? If you can’t see the problem there, I think you’re being a little disingenuous.
I can’t see the problem there as the people who own the sub get to decide how to run it per reddit’s policies. If switching to allowing NSFW images is an issue than isn’t any other rule or topic change an issue too? Can you actually describe what you think the problem is here?
Then you haven’t really thought about the situation at hand, then. Like, at all.
Imagine sending a picture to your friend. Unprompted, undiscussed. If the picture is a meme, we can both surely agree that that isn’t problematic in any way. If the picture is a dick pic, you’ve just committed sexual harassment.
Even though both were sent without explicit consent, the context of your existing relationship matters, and – in the context of you and your friend not sending sexually explicit photos to one another on the regular – the lack of consent in the case of sexual material is a significant issue.
This is essentially the problem with the scenario at hand. The people who suddenly had pornography show up on their front page did not consent to it by subscribing to a porn sub. Yes, even if it was voted on by a tiny minority of subscribers, and yes, even if the sub essentially became a porn sub – the eleven million existing subscribers didn’t consent to seeing that material.
There is, frankly, essentially no way to take an existing, large subreddit, with millions of users, and make it a porn subreddit without violating the consent of a significant chunk of those users. No matter how much the moderators want to do so.
Please don’t tell me I need to explain sexual consent to you.
The glaring oversight in your opinion is that all NSFW posts are clearly marked as NSFW, and desktop reddit along with all the mobile apps have settings requiring you to opt-in to view NSFW posts with further settings to actually display the image previews or hide them (default).
This would be akin to you and your friend both consenting to send NSFW images to one another, your friend sending a link with a NSFW tag (not even an actual image), and then you being shocked when you click it and find it’s a NSFW image.
Your whole argument is disingenuous and borders on concern trolling or pearl clutching. Reddit is full of porn and other NSFW images, so don’t act like they’re suddenly showing hard-core porn to a bunch of kids or something.
But not all NSFW content is porn. And turning on NSFW visibility is not the same thing as being subscribed to a porn sub.
Okay, let’s change the scenario a bit then. Let’s say I magically know you have NSFW content turned on, on your Reddit account. We’ve never conversed.
I then, unprompted, start sending you links to hardcore pornographic images, in your DMs. Once every half hour or so.
Is that something you think would be totally fine? Do you seriously think I wouldn’t be violating a lack of consent on your part? You’ve turned on visibility of NSFW posts, after all, you must be fine with seeing it!