If you’re an American, and you want to stop Trump, it’s important to be actively involved:
- Check your voter registration - there’s been an active effort to purge voter rolls, and if you moved or changed name, you’ll need to register again anyways
- Talk with people you know about voting for Democrats up and down the ballot. Personal endorsement matters.
- Volunteer — it makes a real difference
- If you can afford it, donate to the Biden campaign. Even fairly modest amounts of money from a lot of people add up to being able to hire staff and run ads.
Will make it worse, but if you look into the harms of natural gas (AKA Methane) the USA is already doing more damage than ever with much more coming online and even more planned. Climate Town video on the subject: https://youtu.be/K2oL4SFwkkw?si=r9YNB_9FPAroQCG8.
Trump will just make an already dire situation worse which might actually bring it all to a head sooner. Not an endorsement but more acknowledgment of the sad reality we are actually in.
I don’t mean to downplay the environment, but I think we’ll have a long list of worries… 🫨
This is a c/climate, so we’re talking climate. Lots of other reasons to prefer Biden over Trump (and to avoid third-party candidates)
And none of those other worries will matter when you starve to death because we fucked our ecosysten which we get our food from.
A lot of those worries are worries exactly because they divide and distract people.
Abortion was resolved in the 1970s… Until politicians found they could win votes and divide people by putting the right for a woman to have control over her body into the discourse; demonizing people and lying about abortion being baby killing is a great way to control people.
Migration, economy, even healthcare will all be fucked if we dont address the climate.
Google climate refugee, dengue fever climate change and climate disaster costs if you dont believe me.
would*
At risk of by chance being somehow miraculously reached? The climate goals will soon be as dead as the polar bears.
“Could”?
Way to hedge, Gruaniad. Thanks for nothing but horse race junk.
“could” ffs
No shit. A lot more than just the climate goals will be at risk.
Honestly I think electing him in 2016 was the final nail in the coffin of our chances to fully prevent major climate change. Now we’re 10 years too late.
Now we need a diverse array of strategies, including but not limited to, reduction in our emissions, mitigation of effects and seeing Russia defeated in physical warfare and made to reduce their hydrocarbon reliance. Failure in any facet of the multi-modal approach now necessary will see corresponding consequences.
Naturally, electing him again in 2024 would probably make everything much worse. Again.
If he gets reelected I’m withdrawing my retirement savings (all 10k of it!) and going on a small last binge. I don’t necessarily want to stick around for the consequences of other people’s choices to torture & kill me.
What climate goals? I see a lot of talk about deadlines and dreams. I don’t see much to indicate that there are any goals.
In sports, a goal is something that everyone puts coordinated and concerted effort into achieving.
In business, a goal is something that everyone puts coordinated and concerted effort into achieving.
If the climate “goals” that were set in the 1990s, weak as they were, had been actual goals, we’d now be planning the closure of the last pipelines, not celebrating the opening of new ones and planning for the next. We’d be planning the closure of the last oil and gas fields, not looking for new drilling and fracking opportunities.
Sure, Trump and his ilk are going to make a show of getting in the way, but it’s not like there is any coordinated, concerted effort for them to block.
Biden approved oil drilling so IDK why we even include Biden as a choice
Beats me. We’ve got our own lip-service politicians to deal with in Canada. And absolute disasters… 😠
But he might bring about the complete collapse of the US… which would result in less emissions.
Try to be more optimistic!
Funny joke, but fer serious…
A complete collapse of the US wouldn’t mean a carbon free utopia, it would mean corporations would be the defacto government (they already pretty much are, but we still have weekends and pollution control. Megacorps will turn everything into the mining towns of old where everyone is completely owned by the mining companies and pollution controls, labor laws and healthcare are non-existant.
In a world where US is the only country maybe yes. In real life though this would never happen.
Are you saying Europe would sweep in and save us? China and Russia? Our NAFTA 2.0 partners would say, “woah there, companies, we had a deal with your now-collapsed country.”
The way people cancel corporations for way less is a sign that they would also probably cancel companies who enslaved previously free people. It wouldn’t surprise me is Europe and other allies came to the rescue with rescue plans that although helpful would bind the US into some sort of lock for many years to come. But I don’t expect that distopian schenario to unfold just yet even though it does look bad over there
If it’s the EU the binding could mean following the same rules than EU members. I don’t see much of a problem there.
Thanks for your optimism :)
I really dont think the US will collapse as in this hypothetical scenario, and I sincerely hope you’re right.
Yeah I was just being fatuous.
Don’t threaten me with a good time
continued existence of capitalism does that already
For once I feel like climate goals are the least I’d be worried about should the world’s most influential nation elect a wannabe dictator…
The climate is how we get food. The dictator will just determine if your kids are starving in a bread line, or the front line of a war.
Either way the climate goals need to be your number one priority
Tell everyone you know in Michigan to vote. The rest of us barely matter
Let’s all move to Michigan, then we can matter too 😐
Goals are already busted. Without Trump’s help. This is just some political faction trying to push blame. It’s a propaganda piece.
If Trump wins they can continue to pollute as they see fit. But they can shuffle the blame.
Think about the stock holders.
Trump is an accelerationist. If he wins, it’s not simply the usual BAU, it’s more.
Trumpsters don’t need further convincing.
