The president has been going after his presumptive 2024 opponent with a little more venom than usual

Joe Biden is taking it to Donald Trump.

The president’s campaign responded to Trump’s wild press conference in New York on Monday by slamming the former president as “weak and desperate — both as a man and a candidate for President.”

“He spent the weekend golfing, the morning comparing himself to Jesus, and the afternoon lying about having money he definitely doesn’t have,” the statement read, adding that “America deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired Donald Trump.”

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    8 months ago

    Yeah, but I’m in of the more than 50% of states Biden has zero chance of winning.

    The only time my state has went D in recent history was when a young progressive outsider won the Dem primary. And in the 16 years since the DNC has taken a lot of steps to ensure that never happens again.

    Most recently taking NH’s delegates away.

    If the DNC wants to win my state, they’re going to have to stop running neoliberals, regardless of how I personally vote.

    But the DNC doesn’t want to win if it means a progressive candidate.

    So you can blame one random voter for having morals, or you can blame the DNC for not giving voters what they want for easy wins.

    What do you think is more productive?

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      8 months ago

      Ah, so your answer is to removed and moan about both candidates until election day which you won’t even be participating in. Got it.

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      People reading along here should note this person is trying to turn blue states purple, they admit it with their own words, and they are appealing to morality to lure suckers in.

      As if nobody but them is a moral person

      Bullshit.

      But a lot of us have religious triggers planted deep, yeah? That if you toddle along with the person claiming they are of virtue, maybe you’ll be a good person too?

      Anyway.

      Vote like your hair is on fire, because if assholes like this fine upstanding “moral” person has their say and causes blue voters to stay home, we’re gonna be fucked, just as we were before. They’re trying the same tactic that worked before even to give us Trump. And why wouldn’t they? It worked.

      No state is “safe” from flipping.

      Also note that playing with voting demographics is why a lot of the anti-abortion laws are being pushed…to cleanse purple states of blue voters by driving them out. So when you see anyone encouraging you not to vote because a state is safe, understand it’s part of an effort to flip states from blue or purple to red.

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        8 months ago

        this person is trying to turn blue states purple

        In the last 60 years, my state has voted for Dems twice…

        To get it up to three, you have to go back 90 years, that’s longer than Biden has been alive, barely

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          “not enough people in my state vote D and that’s a bad thing”

          “I’ll never vote for a Democrat in my state unless they’re perfect and that’s a good thing”

          Okay then.

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        Man, you remember when only Republicans made fun of people for having morals and not just blinding voting for your team?

        It wasn’t that long ago…

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          Remember when Republicans cared about anyone other than the wealthy and their own self interests at the expense of literally everyone else?

          I don’t.

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          Whether you vote for Biden or not, you’re still voting for Genocide. Inaction is a decision. So, you’re not as morally superior as you think you are.

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            Mate, I’m one vote, not half a million.

            Biden has absolutely 0% chance of winning my state.

            I’m not in one of the three states that got Biden into office on 30k votes.

            Hell, my state hasn’t even held it’s primary yet.

            The DNC doesn’t give a single fuck about my state. I’m not an abused spouse, I’m not going to keep supporting Biden for zero reason.

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      So you can blame one random voter for having morals, or you can blame the DNC for not giving voters what they want for easy wins.

      i can blame both simultaneously

      if we end up with a fascist president, it is both

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        Ok man, if Biden loses my state by one vote and trump becomes president you can 100% blame me…

        Last time he lost my state by about half a million tho, so I think I’m safe…

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          Read what happened during bush v gore. Your vote matters, you can spare the 15min-4 hours depending on location once every 2-4 years. Sure it’s a shit show, but you’re actively letting the shit show get shittier by trying to prove a point to the DNC, which you eluded to not giving a fuck what you think.

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            Oh I’m still voting. Haven’t missed an election since I turned 18.

            Downballot races matter. Not just House/Senate, but local and judges.

            But I’m not throwing my morals in the trashcan to vote Biden when he has zero chance of winning.mybstate anyways. I’ve blindly voted straight ticket for decades. I can’t keep doing it. For president I’m probably going to leave it blank or write in.

            Because I’ve seen what happens when Democrats no longer try for anyone’s votes except Republicans.

            If they think anyone left of republicans are obligated to vote “blue no matter who” them they’ll never change.

            As long as progressives vote for neoliberals, we’ll never get anything. The DNC only responds to bullshit like this, so this is the only chance at getting the DNC to listen to voters.

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              There is an immediate grave danger to everyone you know and more that you don’t. Sometimes you have to figure that into your moral compass as well. Think of it like stealing bread to feed your family. It looks like you’ve put a lot of thought into this decision, and I hope you continue to.

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                Everybody has a line.

                Mine is going around Congress to ban aid to genocide victims.

                Maybe Dems haven’t crossed your personal line yet.

                I truly hope they never do.

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                  There’s a lot I don’t agree with and frankly some stuff I’m disgusted by. That said, there are worse things to be avoided. The opposition is not going to do Palestine any favors, in fact they boast of the extreme opposite.

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                    Like I said, I hope they don’t cross whatever line you have.

                    But the DNC has been showing us for decades that as long as you still vote D, they don’t give a single fuck what you want.

                    The only thing they respond to is people not voting. So…

                    Hopefully they learn not ignore the left, or else they’ll keep moving right until we all reach out personal line.

                    I really really wish there was another way. But we can’t even count on having primaries anymore.

                    Do you think NH republicans are going to change NH state law by 2028 so the DNC gives them delegates again?

                    I see no reason for that to happen, and the DNC won’t back down because NH doesn’t vote how the DNC wants.

                    I can’t keep supporting them.