• voracitude@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    If by evidence you mean polls, you need to vet your evidence better. Polls are only as good as their responses, but nobody in younger generations picks up the phone for unknown numbers or has time to answer a poll, which skews the numbers heavily. What I do know is that these kids grew up with more school shootings than days in a year, they have seen firsthand the economic and social ruin brought about by these fascists, and only a very small minority of them think it’s anyone’s fault but the Republicans.

    What you should be worried about is not winning the election, but the likelihood we’ll have to fight to keep it won.

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      8 months ago

      What you should be worried about is not winning the election, but the likelihood we’ll have to fight to keep it won.

      Literally all I am talking about when I try to point out we don’t outnumber them by a lot. If we did outnumber them by a lot this would not and never would be a concern at all.

      We haven’t won yet dude. Stop acting like we have because its fucking dangrous.

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        8 months ago

        I disagree with your premise. Where are the hordes of young people showing up to Republican events at schools?

        More, what’s dangerous about pointing out that school-age kids have every reason to vote anything but conservative? You think that will breed complacency? The same argument can be made for dooming like you are breeding apathy, but my position at least has some logic behind it. Your rebuttal was “same for republicans” with absolutely fuck all to back it up.

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          8 months ago

          Breeding apathy? I am trying to point out the war is not over and we need to keep fighting. Not assuming its over we won. Telling people ‘don’t worry we already vastly outnumber them’ is the kind of shit that teaches people they don’t need to show up to vote because its a forgone conclusion.

          I will admit things are leaning our way…but we are far from there yet.

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            8 months ago

            You went from “Republicans made as many gains with young people” (yes I’m paraphrasing but that’s what “same for Republicans” means in context) to “the war isn’t won yet”. Yeah, my guy, there hasn’t even been a fight yet. You might want to be sure of your point before jumping off, shifting the goalposts is a bad look.

            I’m glad we’re on the same side, regardless 🤜🎇🤛

            Edit: Apparently not, that’s sad.

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              … Literally nothing you just typed made sense. My point is remained exactly the same throughout everything. That we do not vastly outnumber them yet, that they are still a massive threat, and yes… Little Republicans are still being born and bred and indoctrinated.

              But at this point I think I’m just going to go ahead and walk away because… I honestly don’t see the point in trying to discuss this with you anymore after that nonsensical crap.

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                You seem to be conflating “Leftist” with “Voter” and it appears to be why you’re not able to understand what they are saying. I was able to follow just fine.

                That being said… You have to understand that the right is indoctrinated into the idea that voting is a duty, lefties aren’t. As far as general attitude toward current events, the US is much more left than it is right.

                I don’t have black and white evidence to show you, and you don’t have any to show me, but follow the money. Why do leftist ideals thrive in places like Hollywood? It’s the larger market.

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                8 months ago

                I’m sorry logic isn’t your strong suit, but you think I’m the one that’s dangerous? Alright bud, keep being the reason the left has a reputation for infighting, good work 👌